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PROVK 05-09-2010 04:46 PM

Rear Bearing - Ceramic or Steel
 
Is there a performace advantage in using ceramic?
Which lasts longer?

The above is for top end .21 Nova engines.

Any other pros or cons?

Reason I ask is that a 14.5mm Nova steel bearing is $25 cheaper than ceramic and to be honest I dont thing the standard ceramics dont last long.

I thought about TKO but I hate the way the balls face the front of the engine because the off set inner race is on the other side.

wingracer 05-09-2010 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by PROVK (Post 7382548)
Is there a performace advantage in using ceramic?
Which lasts longer?

The above is for top end .21 Nova engines.

Any other pros or cons?

Reason I ask is that a 14.5mm Nova steel bearing is $25 cheaper than ceramic and to be honest I dont thing the standard ceramics dont last long.

I thought about TKO but I hate the way the balls face the front of the engine because the off set inner race is on the other side.

The TKO's are excellent and faster than a steel bearing.

PROVK 05-09-2010 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by wingracer (Post 7382653)
The TKO's are excellent and faster than a steel bearing.

have you had any issues with the balls facing the front of the engine, looks strange in the engine because you cant see any balls

wingracer 05-09-2010 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by PROVK (Post 7382764)
have you had any issues with the balls facing the front of the engine, looks strange in the engine because you cant see any balls

No. It's not a problem. Why would it be?

PROVK 05-09-2010 06:52 PM

Balls not exposed for proper lubrication, there is a reason why all engines have the balls facing the rear.

Team Kamikaze 05-09-2010 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by PROVK (Post 7383106)
Balls not exposed for proper lubrication, there is a reason why all engines have the balls facing the rear.

+1 very true.

PROVK 05-09-2010 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by Team Kamikaze (Post 7383170)
+1 very true.

It doesnt take long to destroy an engine due to a bearing going bad during a race

fulcrum2 05-09-2010 11:42 PM

Could be that it was just a fluke, my fault or bad luck, but I will never buy TKO bearing again. My rear ceramic bearing felt notchy out of the bag. I installed it anyway with the Novarossi extraction and mounting tools following TKO's instructions. Ran the engine for 5 tanks, then it seized and the engine was totally destroyed. Dismantled it and found a broken ceramic ball of the rear bearing. Next time I will buy Novarossi...

PROVK 05-09-2010 11:46 PM


Originally Posted by fulcrum2 (Post 7384238)
Could be that it was just a fluke, my fault or bad luck, but I will never buy TKO bearing again. My rear ceramic bearing felt notchy out of the bag. I installed it anyway with the Novarossi extraction and mounting tools following TKO's instructions. Ran the engine for 5 tanks, then it seized and the engine was totally destroyed. Dismantled it and found a broken ceramic ball of the rear bearing. Next time I will buy Novarossi...

Fulcrum, I have to agree with you 100%, the TKO felt notchy new, nothing like a new nova one

wingracer 05-10-2010 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by PROVK (Post 7383106)
Balls not exposed for proper lubrication, there is a reason why all engines have the balls facing the rear.

It's not sealed. There is plenty of room for oil to get to it.

Haven't had a notchy one and I've used quite a few. The only problem I have had was the first batch of 14.5 ones had too much play in them. They have fixed that since then.

Roelof 05-10-2010 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by PROVK (Post 7383106)
Balls not exposed for proper lubrication, there is a reason why all engines have the balls facing the rear.

The main reason is that on that side the rounding is larger on the edge of the inner disc of the bearing. Due that rounding the crankshaft (which has that rounding as well) will fell deep enough. If it is face in the wrong way the edge is sharper and will not let the crankshaft fell deep enough with as result when fitting a flywheel you will lock up the bearings.


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