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Old 10-19-2009, 05:01 PM
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Sorry thats deg celcius not Fahrenheit.

What are the timing differences? Is the timing for more bottom or top end?
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he is talking about Celsius not Fahrenheit.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Slo-MTX4
Is there much difference between the IDM and EDO versions?
As I have them both, I can give comment on that.
As xspower said, the difference can be found in the crank, the IDM has more work done to it.
The EDO on the other hand, has a better cooling head and also the "aligned" conrod...
Difference in performance?
Not really....
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:48 PM
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What do you mean by the aligned conrod?

Thats great about the performace.

How often do you change rods M7H?
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Old 10-20-2009, 12:54 AM
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I don't know what it exactly means, but I think aligned means that the big end and small end of the conrod are measured and are exactly parrallel to each other....
So the conrods are selected....

Replacement interval depends heavily on how you use them.
I race them hard, and replace them every 5 liters of fuel.
With an older engine I had (Mega DSII) I tested and even reached 10 liters on a conrod, but beter safe then sorry, that's why I change them every 5 liters...
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Originally Posted by Slo-MTX4
Sorry thats deg celcius not Fahrenheit.

What are the timing differences? Is the timing for more bottom or top end?

Ok then you are fine. That worried me. Also the timing differences are in the entire duration of the opening. You generally have more timing for increased top speed.
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Originally Posted by M7H
As I have them both, I can give comment on that.
As xspower said, the difference can be found in the crank, the IDM has more work done to it.
The EDO on the other hand, has a better cooling head and also the "aligned" conrod...
Difference in performance?


Not really....
They both share the rod feature. Really nothing only thing is that it is checked for accuracy where the tolerances are more closely looked at on the standard engine the engine is assembled. I would think that you would have to have a real issue with the rod to have any sort of problem of performance issue from a bad rod from a assembled engine. That would be my guess. You can offset the rods I have seen this done with shims on the small end to stop some walk but that is it.
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Originally Posted by xspower
Ok then you are fine. That worried me. Also the timing differences are in the entire duration of the opening. You generally have more timing for increased top speed.
Is it the crank or exhaust port timing thats different?
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Originally Posted by M7H
I don't know what it exactly means, but I think aligned means that the big end and small end of the conrod are measured and are exactly parrallel to each other....
So the conrods are selected....

Replacement interval depends heavily on how you use them.
I race them hard, and replace them every 5 liters of fuel.
With an older engine I had (Mega DSII) I tested and even reached 10 liters on a conrod, but beter safe then sorry, that's why I change them every 5 liters...
Thanks M7H will keep an eye on them.
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What's the status on this motor? Is it still in production? Is there a new version coming out?
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Originally Posted by Raman
What's the status on this motor? Is it still in production? Is there a new version coming out?
+1

i see there's a new off road engine so is there going to be a new on road version?
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Old 12-30-2009, 03:40 PM
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I emailed Ofna, a month ago and go no response.

I emailed Picco (I'm fluent in Italian) no response.

Picco's website is out of date.. they don't even list the P9R

http://www.teampicco.com/productshome.html
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There really is no P9R the engines all are a P7R. Both for the Picco and IDM brand. There will be another engine coming out but the P7R EVO3 is still being made up till this point. On and Off Road. The P7R off road is a 5 port and the P7R Track is a 7 port. There is no 9port offered just a label given. Also The are on holiday so you may not reach them depending on when you emailed Picco. I do not know about Ofna I would assume they are open.
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My emails were a couple of months ago.. I work for Italians.. and they can be very laxy daisical...

Thanks for clearing up the P9R thing.

Interestingly enough Ofna's websites lists the EVO2 as a 7 and 9 port while the EVO3s as 5+2 and 7+2.

I wonder if the new P7R be labeled Picco or JLR Picco? The new P3 became JLR 28..
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Originally Posted by Raman
My emails were a couple of months ago.. I work for Italians.. and they can be very laxy daisical...

Thanks for clearing up the P9R thing.

Interestingly enough Ofna's websites lists the EVO2 as a 7 and 9 port while the EVO3s as 5+2 and 7+2.

I wonder if the new P7R be labeled Picco or JLR Picco? The new P3 became JLR 28..

I have no idea what they may do.
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