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performula 07-16-2006 12:24 PM

Melting glow plug coils!
 
Today I was at the track running the engine rich at stock needle settings - 4.5 turns out - HSN, 3 turns out - LSN, Flush with carb body - MSN. Usually I do this for a few mintues to reset everything and flush out any dirt. Well after about four laps (smoke at full throttle, raw fuel spitting out at idle) I shut her down. After about 30 seconds I attempted restart the engine with no luck. Upon inspection the glow plug coil had melted - brand new! Then it did it again within three laps on another brand new plug!

After I burned two plugs out and none left, I packed up my things.

I have a Nova TN12 (based off RS12), Byrons Race 3000 (30%), and O.S. #8 plugs, 90-95 degrees out, engine is totally stock (no shims added). At the end of the last race I noticed the car was having problems.

Is it possible that the car is too rich? This isn't making any sense to me. Thanks in advance.

performula 07-16-2006 12:50 PM

Should I be using a colder plug?

FREELANCE_RCer 07-16-2006 01:51 PM

Hmmmmm, the same problem I had before.
Does your engine vibrate too much? Does the button head in the combustion chamber a little rough?
Check the piston, bearings, and excessive play on the connecting rod brass bushings.
Replace them if necessary. Or try to add 0.1mm shims to minimize detonation.

performula 07-16-2006 03:09 PM

I'm almost positive it is the 30% nitro and the OS #8 that do not match. Can anyone confirm this?

Corse-R 07-16-2006 03:24 PM

Just one question... why use an OS #8 plug? Just use the Nova or RB ones... less fuzz and problems. Is normal or Turbo?

performula 07-16-2006 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by Corse-R
Just one question... why use an OS #8 plug? Just use the Nova or RB ones... less fuzz and problems. Is normal or Turbo?

Normal/Standard. I'll be honest I am very disappointed with these. My Novas never gave me problems other than one. Where can I get them in the states?

Corse-R 07-16-2006 03:36 PM

Just use a Nova 7Cold or RB #7. Pay attention to the Combustion chamber height. If you find some Sirio #7 they work really fine too (Yep... are available on standard 1/4 UNF thread size - Are the buggy ones).

performula 07-21-2006 03:22 PM

Can someone breakdown the RB Concepts plug number and heat ranges, thanks.

silverM3 07-21-2006 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by performula
I'm almost positive it is the 30% nitro and the OS #8 that do not match. Can anyone confirm this?

I would try to use a shorter plug. OS #8 is a standard plug as your said.

You probably save couple bucks using OS #8, but it is just better to use NovaRossi plug....

Chris West 07-22-2006 12:18 AM

i blew every OS standard pug i ever had (A3 ,#8) (when i used a OS12TR) i found that they werent that good, i always ran the engine rich and i wasnt the only one having probs with them, i ended up selling the engine cheap and the other guy started using the R5 plug on 15% nitro

latemodel13 07-23-2006 07:15 PM

os plug
 
The os plugs are shorter than novarossi and the #8 is too hot for 30 percent fuel.

performula 07-23-2006 07:35 PM

Can anyone break down the RB heat ranges/plug codes?

performula 07-23-2006 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by latemodel13
The os plugs are shorter than novarossi and the #8 is too hot for 30 percent fuel.

Yeah, I went through $20 worth of plugs. You live and learn I guess. :(

performula 07-23-2006 08:15 PM

What's the difference between long and short plugs?

RCRjuanabbe 07-24-2006 09:10 AM

Check your engine's spec. the shim that come with stock engine has a limitation. most engines are good up to 25% nitro without adding a 0.1mm shim. (0.1=5% nitro) 30% nitro creates lots of compression. your problem is shimming.
i am almost sure that once you find out the max nitro for the stock setting and adding the right shimms your problem will go away.


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