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Old 06-08-2006, 01:52 PM   #301
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.....afm - I think that means operating temperature but I will check to be sure - I think it's listed backwards from normal which indicates the plug temp.
Thaks Josh, we'll wait for your comfirmation..... BTW best luck on the Nationals

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rmd - Evo3.... I've never run the STI. Lap time was nearly identical but with the fuel milage difference I was 8 seconds faster over 30 minutes... Now that we are learning about the pipes, I expect the lap times to be faster with still keeping the fuel milage difference in tact... I'll know more after this weekend.
Thanks for sharing! That's a really good baseline comparison. Given that your Evo3 was probably fully tuned and running the most optimal pipe, that's saying a lot.
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were can i buy crf pipes from need pipes ASAP CAN SPME ONE HELP ?
You should check for distributors on www.teamorion.com
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Old 06-08-2006, 03:23 PM   #304
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I just got off the phone with Ultimate Hobbies and they don't have the plugs or the pipes. With regard to the pipes, they said they don't know if they are going to carry it yet. I informed them that the engine will perform best with the pipes made for the engine and the response was, "So they claim. We haven't tested it ourselves yet."

Great. Just great.
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You should call Team Orion USA !
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Thanks for sharing! That's a really good baseline comparison. Given that your Evo3 was probably fully tuned and running the most optimal pipe, that's saying a lot.
That is a pointless comparison ! Firstly EVO 3 is older and there is now a STI. Why not compare the Evo 3 to the old WASP? Secondly, the opinion is going to be very biased towards the sponsor (Josh, im not questioning your integrity), and thats the way the commercial world works. If you asked Adrien Bertin the same questions, no doubt the Sirio would yield the best results, or Mike Swauger would tell you that Ninja works the best for him and so on!!!

Even though im all Sirio, I still support team orion, and would like to try a CRF soon. As for optimal pipe with the EVO 3, in my opinion, it's not the Sirio 2611 EFRA but rather the Mugen 2501. Better fuel consumption as well as more power.
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That is a pointless comparison ! Firstly EVO 3 is older and there is now a STI. Why not compare the Evo 3 to the old WASP? Secondly, the opinion is going to be very biased towards the sponsor (Josh, im not questioning your integrity), and thats the way the commercial world works. If you asked Adrien Bertin the same questions, no doubt the Sirio would yield the best results, or Mike Swauger would tell you that Ninja works the best for him and so on!!!

Even though im all Sirio, I still support team orion, and would like to try a CRF soon. As for optimal pipe with the EVO 3, in my opinion, it's not the Sirio 2611 EFRA but rather the Mugen 2501. Better fuel consumption as well as more power.
To each his own. I know a few A Main guys that are using the Evo3, so it means something to me. Plus, I said baseline comparison, you know - a known quantity that you can compare something against.

I don't expect Josh to test every engine against the WR.
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On the new web site they print the plugs like this:

ORI88825 CRF Turbo Plug 5 COLD ???
ORI88826 CRF Turbo Plug 6 MEDIUM
ORI88827 CRF Turbo Plug 7 HOT ???

I'm confused ??? shouldn't the higher number be the coldest??? or in this item Orion also makes a difference....????

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Here you have the new Orion CRF clutch, references and photos:



More info and bigger photos:

http://www.cochesrc.com/article1353.html

http://www.cochesrc.com/foros/ftopic57734-200.html

In that forum post (spanish) we are speaking about this engine, and there are interesting conclusions, but we have to do more tests.
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Here you have the new Orion CRF clutch, references and photos:

Wow that was fast!
Yes this is one of the clutch sets made by CRF that will allow you to fine tune your original clutch for the Wasp CRF engine. Designed, tested and approved by the CRF development team! Notice the square wire spring.
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Wow that was fast!
Yes this is one of the clutch sets made by CRF that will allow you to fine tune your original clutch for the Wasp CRF engine. Designed, tested and approved by the CRF development team! Notice the square wire spring.
How much will it cost as a whole. And will there be spare parts for it?
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Nano: Are the clutch sets applicable to all track conditions? (i.e. small, medium, large - technical/non-technical) I also noticed that the square spring can be purchased seperately. Does that mean that the specific car clutch sets use a different springs?

Is flywheel binding that much of an issue? When are people experiencing this problem and is it that common? What is the best way to deal with the problem until the clutch sets become available?

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Clutches, we are preparing special tuning sets for different types of clutches, They include special weights using very hard material to limit binding on the flywheel, a shoe made out of a selected type of teflon and most importantly a special spring made with square wire. With this setup you will get the best clutch function for this engine.
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Nano: I'm planning on getting the ORI88003 Torque/Speed pipe, but could you provide more details on the ORI88002 High Torque pipe? How are "small tracks" being defined?

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