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Old 06-06-2006, 02:27 PM   #226
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Thanks for the updates Nano!

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You can try using other stuff but results may vary and you might mess up the engine's head trying to fit them.


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I have tested the 2626 pipe pictured above and it is a very good pipe to use with the engine.
What plug, % nitro and head shims did you use?

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ORI88650 TEAM ORION CRF Clutch conversion kit Kyosho (RRR)
Do you have an idea when these special clutch sets will be available??
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barclayrc - Thank you so much! Very good info!
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Old 06-06-2006, 02:33 PM   #228
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you are welcome, if we can share our experiences and help eachother all around the world it is lot of fun too ! Are you in Hawai ?

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16% nitro, stock plug and stock everything. So far I've been pulling engines out of the box and running them without even adjusting the carb settings for the first couple of tanks. Engine never stalls and feels pretty ok right away.

Normally you don't have to adjust the carb settings a lot to get it right, at least using pipes which work with the engine, having proper gearing and a clutch that does not engage too early.

A reccomendation for those taking appart the engine, go easy on the screws and follow the procedure shown in the instructions. The engine should not bind when you spin it by hand after you have rebuilt it.

The clutch sets are being manufactured as we speak.
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you are welcome, if we can share our experiences and help eachother all around the world it is lot of fun too ! Are you in Hawai ?

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I was thinking of creating a knowledge base for the WASP REV like I did for the RRR, but I think Team Orion should be the keeper of the knowledge, not me. Nano: - What do you think?

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Sure we'll have a knowledge base or something like that made up. Now the engine is in the wild we are getting a lot of feedback.
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A few news from the Swiss side..............

Pipes and headers, as most of you probably know headers and pipes are very important, certain header/pipe combinations work and others don't. So far from our testing you are better off using headers/pipes that favor low end torque, the engine will take care of the top end speed, power and torque. I have tested the 2626 pipe pictured above and it is a very good pipe to use with the engine.......................

That's all for now!
Nano, the 2626 pipe set is which of the following:

ORI 88002 Torque
ORI 88003 Torque/Speed
ORI 88004 Speed

Now that beeing found, are the three pipes the same, and only the header changes between these:

ORI 88057 Torque
ORI 88058 Torque/Speed
ORI 88059 Speed

Or are the pipes alone different between them

ORI 88104 Torque
ORI 88105 Torque/Speed
ORI 88106 Speed

If everything is different, that is a lot of combinations to test and spend on. There has to be an optimal combination. Lets say get the torque set and the other two headers, or get the torque/speed set and the other two headers. Which is a recommended start??

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i think you would get a great deal more sleep without the internet
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i think you would get a great deal more sleep without the internet
I second that!!!

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Old 06-06-2006, 07:18 PM   #235
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That team Orion Pipe looks to be the same as the Mugen 2501 pipe made by M Mielke. Great pipe.

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I second that!!!

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Nano,

Which clutch type of the 3 you mentioned would work with the Team Magic G4s car.

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How much are you guys paying for this engine? Most of the places selling it over $300. I think this is a bit overpriced. For this price, I can get a new NovaRossi 12 plus 3 Ceramic. What is the MSRP for it? thx.
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Is there room in the engine to lower the sleeve by 0.3mm on this engine? I was thinking of trying a mod where I skim 0.3mm off the bottom of the sleeve flange to adjust the port timing.

If you get a BRB set it comes with 0.3mm of undersleeve shims (3 x 0.1mm) so you can raise the sleeve. Raising the sleeve moves the power band up the curve so for fast tracks you add shims and tight tracks take them out. I was hoping I could do the same to the CRF

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Nano, the 2626 pipe set is which of the following:

If everything is different, that is a lot of combinations to test and spend on. There has to be an optimal combination. Lets say get the torque set and the other two headers, or get the torque/speed set and the other two headers. Which is a recommended start??
We designed the 2626 (part#88007) after we first had designed the 3 pipes above. We decided to add it because it gives a good feeling in general with the engine. It might not be the top for each track condition, but it is a good all around pipe.

We understand that it can be confusing to have all these choices, but it's the engine's designer wish that everyone can have the parts to fine tune the engine for each track. It's not a matter of having extra part numbers, what is important is to have the best setup for every track. Again the engine will work fine with any of these pipes, but some pipes will be more efficient on a certain track and others on another track.

If you want a basic good all-around pipe you can get the #88003 or #88007 and check about headers afterwards.
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