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Old 08-12-2017, 09:26 AM   #16
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Elite 5 from novarossidirect or Paloma.

.21 Off-Road, Page 2

Great racing motors and good motors to learn with. Won't hurt your wallet much when you make a rookie mistake.

Then when you get ready for big boy racing... You can spend your hard earned $$$ on an OS Speed motor.

Spending $100++ more isn't going to give you twice the performance. That's a rookie mistake. Spend that money on plugs, clutch bearings, and clutch parts.
Ok looks like it'll be one of the two. Any recommendations on a pipe?
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Old 08-12-2017, 09:34 AM   #17
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Saw the Novarossi S21P5XLT on ebay selling for $149 incl. shipping...seems to be a pretty good deal s well.
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Besides the Elite 5 mentioned here, I consider these additional options

Option 1


Option 2


Option 3


All of them are well within my price-range too.
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Old 08-12-2017, 12:47 PM   #19
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Elite 5...

The Elite 5 I heard is BETTER than the P5XLT. Why would you spend more? From what I know and have heard, that would make absolutely no sense…

The Werks is probably great(and a good price listed above. The P5XLT is too much..), but as a beginner get something as cheap as possible for starters… The Elite 5 is killer value for money at its price. Then later you can always get the Werks or whatever else.

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Novarossi direct elite 5 or Paloma ltd. either engine with the 9901 pipe and either the 41033, 41001 or 41021 header. Use the coupon code racer10 to save even more. The total will come out UNDER $200.
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Novarossi direct elite 5 or Paloma ltd. either engine with the 9901 pipe and either the 41033, 41001 or 41021 header. Use the coupon code racer10 to save even more. The total will come out UNDER $200.
Do i need the Mugen versions to fit in a MBX7R?
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Do i need the Mugen versions to fit in a MBX7R?
When Adam Drake ran novarossi he didn't use the mugen version on his 7r
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When Adam Drake ran novarossi he didn't use the mugen version on his 7r
Ok. What's the difference between the 5 Elite and the Paloma? Is the P worth the extra $11?
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The Paloma is a 7-port, the Elite 5 a 5-port. So the Paloma should be more powerful, and theoretically have more top end power and speed. But also maybe too much low end power for a buggy(for most people..)? Maybe also more thirsty? Not sure about run time, but there are lots of variables which affect that. Most serious buggy racers care more about smoothness and runtime than all-out power. As a first engine the Elite 5 is probably a more sensible choice. Again, you can adjust how it runs with pipe and header changes. For someone getting into racing, especially at that price from novadirect, it really is a simple no-brainer decision. Get the Paloma later if you want silly buggy power. Or just buy both now.. Those prices are simply silly.
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Ok, it will be either the 5 Elite or a gallon-old Mito 4 Ceramic.
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gawd, just got the Tower email about ecash...thats gonna make a Werks engine super attractive...like Sub-$250-for-engine-and-pipe-attractive...
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I've never had one, but Werks are sure to be good engines too.

I'm in Europe, so Werks is not so readily available or cheap here. I've always wanted one. The 2058 is an awesome pipe.
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Hi guys,
i'm new to Nitro, been on the electric side of things for a while but now looking to get a nitro in addition.

I'm looking for an engine that is suitable for a 'beginner' in the Nitro world that offers the great value for its price.

Any recommendations are much appreciated!
I just want to add to the votes here and agree, the best bang for the buck is the Elite 5 or the Paloma ltd 7 port. The 9901 on either engine is really good.

I own and have run both those engines a lot and I also have OS XZB, Alpha, Picco, and FX engines and a few other Nova Rossis.

I think Alphas are not really the best choice for beginners, the break-in can be a little bit challenging.

I havn't tried a Werks yet but thinking of getting one.

The Paloma does have some insane pulling power. It moves my 8 1/2lb OFNA Picco (9.5 varient) around like it's a 7 1/2 car.

For me, the most important parts for engine recommendations is the initial price, easy break-in, easy tuning, and parts support.

The Elite 5 and Paloma ltd are the 2 best choices that meet all of that better then pretty much everything else.

51006M / EFRA 9901

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Alpha, they have a fantastic price on amain these days. Plus the spare parts (conrod etc.) are very fairly priced. Worlds A-main finalist, to remind you
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I'd have to say best value for money is alpha, I've had a few in my time, great power and with the right run in and tune you can get monster economy out of them. I currently use OS because I can afford it but otherwise I'd have no problems running alpha.
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