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Old 05-30-2014 | 10:54 AM
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Anyone running it??
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Good fuel?


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Old 05-30-2014 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by segreda
Anyone running it??
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Problems?
Good fuel?


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Around a lot of places Sidewinder Strike and Strike fuels are known as engine killers, as they use very low flash point oils that burn off leaving very little lubrication in the engine.
I strip down lots of engines, and you can tell the ones that have run these fuels straight away. Either a red dry scale like coating left over everything, or just plain out and out dry.
Engine wear (especially bearing and crank pin) is greatly accelerated running these fuels IMHO.

If you can source Werks Race Blend, Bones Brew or Byrons locally, I would go down one of those roads.

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Old 05-30-2014 | 02:54 PM
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Is it red, purple, or clear? I can tell you first hand that the purple flavor makes a good weed killer...
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Old 05-30-2014 | 03:00 PM
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I have been running Sidewinder for 10 years and never had a problem but, I have seen a post were somebody said that Sidewinder "Morgan Fuel" had a bad batch of Strike Team fuel "purple blend" a few years ago but that was it.. If I pull the back plate off one of my engines, I can get a few drops of lubrication on my work table., a day or two after I use the engine the flywheel will feel somewhat heavy from all the lube inside the engine and that makes my smile...

I like the World Champ blend 30% the best but the new clear one makes me happy too..

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Old 05-30-2014 | 03:05 PM
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Morgan Fuel is amazing. I have been running it since 2003 and never had a single engine failure. Only fuel I use ever.
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Old 05-30-2014 | 04:02 PM
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Thanks guys

Its the strike team v2 30%
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Old 05-30-2014 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by segreda
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Its the strike team v2 30%
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Old 05-30-2014 | 07:48 PM
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Ya it was a few years ago when I ran the team strike fuel so its possible that I may have gotten some of that "bad batch"...
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Old 05-30-2014 | 11:24 PM
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Strike Team v2 all the way....
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Old 05-31-2014 | 03:30 AM
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I would recommend against using team Stryke ...Over the years I have had multiple run ins with this product and the results were rather poor.......At one point this was the most popular fuel in the Midwest but after so many issues for so many people almost nobody runs it any longer..Hobby stores could buy it so cheaply it was a very popular product to sell as the margins were better then the other fuels, so at one point this stuff was everywhere....hugely popular for a little spell anyways but the troubles it had killed its popularity....

Anyways IMO Werks,Bones or Byrons ! Stay to these 3 and all will be good !

edit... I hate even saying what i have said here. I respect the opinion of those who swear by this fuel and understand they , however my first hand experiences working professionally in this industry also have to be respected equally..... it works both ways....I know what i have seen and measured, and I know how this product behaved based on many dozens of examples... I am not talking out of my arse or making any of this up to further my own agenda or promote my own chosen products.....those who know me know better and know I am not like that.....

edit #2....... I am unsure of how many changes have been made to this blend, and which version the troubles were with as it was 2 Race seasons past now,....

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Old 05-31-2014 | 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by hustler777
Is it red, purple, or clear? I can tell you first hand that the purple flavor makes a good weed killer...
makes a great engine killer too !

Originally Posted by grizz1
Around a lot of places Sidewinder Strike and Strike fuels are known as engine killers, as they use very low flash point oils that burn off leaving very little lubrication in the engine.
I strip down lots of engines, and you can tell the ones that have run these fuels straight away. Either a red dry scale like coating left over everything, or just plain out and out dry.
Engine wear (especially bearing and crank pin) is greatly accelerated running these fuels IMHO.

If you can source Werks Race Blend, Bones Brew or Byrons locally, I would go down one of those roads.

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Old 05-31-2014 | 10:37 PM
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Well Neal, as they say - you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink

Just a couple of points I'd like to make as closing comments on this topic.
As Neal pointed out, I don't think anybody feels comfortable about coming on here and posting negative comments on any product - but someone asked a reasonable question, which deserved an honest and straight up answer.

Neal and I both work on nitro engines pretty much every day (as part of, or for our livelihoods).
We have both seen a lot of fuel go through a lot of engines (Neal way more than me), and have done a lot of comparison testing through customers engines and our own over time.

I smile a little when I read a couple of the posts above, with guys having run nothing but this fuel for 10 years plus "without issue".
If you have never run anything else, how do you know your motors are not wearing out prematurely compared to if you had run other fuel products - you don't.
You are getting X gallons out of a motor on Strike, maybe you would get X + 3 or 4 gallons more out of an engine on something else ??
Sidewinder or Strike V2 make good power, no problem there, it's the wear factor they introduce to engine internals due to inferior (compared to what is now available out there) low flash point oils that all but burn away during operation.

If you run two different engines on different fuels for say 2 gallons, then put them under the magnifying glass and micrometer to check wear - then you can say with some amount of certainty what is going on.
Without going into detail, after 2 gallons on some of the fuels we are discussing here, wear on crank pins and rod bushings is somewhat higher than what would be expected, especially when compared to other fuels with superior lubrication packages. Bearings also suffer unduly due to lack of sufficient lubrication.
The micrometer and the eye don't lie. The difference is plainly there to see.
You see this on different brands of motors with a variety of racers. It's not customer tuning, or lack of TLC - it's a common theme of premature engine wear.

Anyhoooo, everyone to his own I guess.
As they say - every cloud has a silver lining. If customers insist on running this stuff, then I get to do more overhauls more frequently, and make more new engine sales......

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Old 06-01-2014 | 06:09 AM
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Thanks for all the replys
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Old 06-01-2014 | 06:48 AM
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well... I have tried Byron, O'Donnell, VP but the morgan fuel works for me.. engine internals are always in excellent shape., flywheel very hard to turn from the high compression, glow plugs last me for ever, engine temp never over 225 with plenty power, engine full of lubricant when maintenance them.. I have nothing bad to say about any fuel brand... a lot of brands have had their ups and downs but, it also comes down to how well can the person tune the engine, specially when they use fuel with 9% lubricant.. I am very OCD about my engines because, I can't afford to buy engines left and right like a lot of guys here and so far, Morgan fuels gets it done for me..
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Old 06-01-2014 | 07:28 AM
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I dont think the issue is with all Morgan fuels but mainly the Strike Team.

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