whats faster than a ninja for a losi truggy
06-24-2011, 09:48 PM
#31
Originally Posted by jbraddock
hell yeah i haven't ever got that long on a tank! Can your os 25x out run ninjas? I seen a vid. on youtube it was hard to tell by not being there but it looked as fast as the ninja if not faster...it was a clocked version as well
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06-25-2011, 12:25 AM
#33
06-25-2011, 04:42 AM
#34
Originally Posted by Maximo
Jeez, I can lean a mill out to get it to make that kind of power too. He was on his lid for 1/2 of a second and that thing was chewbaka starvin. No wonder the vid cut off right as that happened.
06-25-2011, 08:42 AM
#35
Originally Posted by got_nitro
Jeez, I can lean a mill out to get it to make that kind of power too. He was on his lid for 1/2 of a second and that thing was chewbaka starvin. No wonder the vid cut off right as that happened.Last edited by Maximo; 06-25-2011 at 09:06 AM.
06-25-2011, 09:43 AM
#36
Originally Posted by Maximo
it ran out of fuel ! then it died.......should I have kept video running of the truggy being retrieved ? FYI leaning a engine doesn't make power, in fact they lose power if they go lean..........If you can make a lean engine make that kind of power then you know something I do not !
Yeah they dont last as long and heat up to stupid temps but are you telling me if I run a fat tune it makes as much power as a lean tune? After watching it again, that thing was lean even before it ran out of fuel.Anyway dude, I was not bashing on you. I was just making a statment. When you can make a fat engine run like a raped ape lean engine shoot me a PM
. And NO, were talking about a perfect tune here.
06-25-2011, 09:52 AM
#37
Originally Posted by got_nitro
Leaning a engine out does not make more power? Yeah they dont last as long and heat up to stupid temps but are you telling me if I run a fat tune it makes as much power as a lean tune? After watching it again, that thing was lean even before it ran out of fuel.
Anyway dude, I was not bashing on you. I was just making a statment. When you can make a fat engine run like a raped ape lean engine shoot me a PM. And NO, were talking about a perfect tune here.
Yeah they dont last as long and heat up to stupid temps but are you telling me if I run a fat tune it makes as much power as a lean tune? After watching it again, that thing was lean even before it ran out of fuel.Anyway dude, I was not bashing on you. I was just making a statment. When you can make a fat engine run like a raped ape lean engine shoot me a PM
. And NO, were talking about a perfect tune here.If you can tune a engine lean and make that kind of power please let know LOL ! I know your not knocking me, but if you think running lean makes power then you have much to learn yet !
edit.... I should add that this is a Mugen 6T with a home made clunk in the tank....it works decently, holds wicked tune for 3/4 of the tank, but once the tanks gets near empty we are finding some minor fuel supply issues on the jumps....I am going to try a longer feed line, but if that doesn't work then I will go back to the stock 6T tank setup....
Last edited by Maximo; 06-25-2011 at 10:05 AM.
06-25-2011, 10:06 AM
#38
Not trying to dis on u Maxi, but if I was a motor guru I would post a better video then that. All i seen was a bunch of wheel spinning and uncontrollable truck. So all this power was wasted and not being usable.
06-25-2011, 10:18 AM
#39
Originally Posted by Brandon Black
Not trying to dis on u Maxi, but if a was a motor guru I would post a better video then that. All i seen was a bunch of wheel spinning and uncontrollable truck. So all this power was wasted and not being usable.
the thread starter was wondering if a mod OS 25 would beat a Ninja..........well yes it can ! that is the point of posting the video.....! I have hundreds of videos online of my engines running perfectly, so I have nothing to hide.....I could copy and paste all the perfect video sequences , add in dramatic background music and paint a pretty little perfect picture..or I could just post things as they are and keep things real......The OS 25 is a monster of a engine and i think the video shows that......Yes it was spinning, yes my driving sucked, but it does show how hard a mod 25 can run....
But to make everyone happy, I will go out and shoot a better video of the 25.......
FYI.. I am by no means offended,insulted or worried... it is what it is.....
06-25-2011, 10:37 AM
#40
Well my point is, That a mod motor for insane power is not going to win races. Driving skills, setups and tires is what will win races 99% of the time.
06-25-2011, 10:41 AM
#41
Originally Posted by Maximo
A lean engine actually makes less power then a rich engine, ..I have tested both ways many times on the dyno....If that 25 was lean it would be dropping off in power and have nowhere near that kind of top end....... I know to a novice you may think lean makes power, and the leaner you run the more power you make, but that is simply not the case...... these engines need to burn fuel to make power, the more fuel we burn clean, the more power we make.......... Yes I was also noticing a slight drop in power on the jumps on that last lap as my tank was nearly dry and my clunk was bouncing out of the fuel.......Not a lean tune by any means, just poor fuel supply as the tank ran dry
If you can tune a engine lean and make that kind of power please let know LOL ! I know your not knocking me, but if you think running lean makes power then you have much to learn yet !
edit.... I should add that this is a Mugen 6T with a home made clunk in the tank....it works decently, holds wicked tune for 3/4 of the tank, but once the tanks gets near empty we are finding some minor fuel supply issues on the jumps....I am going to try a longer feed line, but if that doesn't work then I will go back to the stock 6T tank setup....
If you can tune a engine lean and make that kind of power please let know LOL ! I know your not knocking me, but if you think running lean makes power then you have much to learn yet !
edit.... I should add that this is a Mugen 6T with a home made clunk in the tank....it works decently, holds wicked tune for 3/4 of the tank, but once the tanks gets near empty we are finding some minor fuel supply issues on the jumps....I am going to try a longer feed line, but if that doesn't work then I will go back to the stock 6T tank setup....
Yeah, insinuating that I'm a novice I guess you won. But you still avoided (as usual, just like in other threads where you are asked a direct or indirect question) what I was asking/saying. When you can make a fat engine run as fast as a lean engine let me know. We both know it's not great for them either way but I wont be waiting holding my breath turning blue.
06-25-2011, 11:13 AM
#42
It's not lean, trust me i have one. I agree the video doesn't do it justice. I believe Neal was running with stock gearing also. I went up 1 tooth on bell. It's a great truggy engine when running on a track with bite. Cut them some slack, it's the 1st track they've had to run on that wasn't a half days drive in one direction. It'll get tightened up. I have 4 of Neals engines, they run!
06-25-2011, 11:14 AM
#43
Originally Posted by got_nitro
Yeah, insinuating that I'm a novice I guess you won. But you still avoided (as usual, just like in other threads where you are asked a direct or indirect question) what I was asking/saying. When you can make a fat engine run as fast as a lean engine let me know. We both know it's not great for them either way but I wont be waiting holding my breath turning blue.
If an engine goes to lean they fall flat and bog out...... I am willing to shoot a video to show this if it is needed........You can't make power by starving an engine for fuel........ On the dyno I usually start with the needles very rich, then each pass I dial in the mixture... you can see on the graphs a very progressive rise in power as the mixture approaches ideal, however once you go past ideal on the lean side the power drops off very fast......You lose power much more rapidly being lean then you do being rich....If my OS 25 was lean, it would stumble and be unable to ring out on top end, it would sound flat and start to detonate at the end of the straight.........
06-25-2011, 11:18 AM
#44
Originally Posted by Brandon Black
Well my point is, That a mod motor for insane power is not going to win races. Driving skills, setups and tires is what will win races 99% of the time.
So true..
I always liked this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvaCEEFRuW8
Dude is fast as hell... With a stock Ninja...
06-25-2011, 11:20 AM
#45
Originally Posted by Brandon Black
Well my point is, That a mod motor for insane power is not going to win races. Driving skills, setups and tires is what will win races 99% of the time.
