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Novarossi S21 P5XLT (2010 edition) ??????

Old 12-04-2011, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by rossham46
Hi all , which of these pipes works best on the p5xlt on a truggy?
1. Dynamite 053
2. Losi re 12
3. Werks 2058
the 2058 will give you the most performance of the 3...I myself do not like the 053 pipes, they take away too much top end...the 2058 will have as much bottom as the 053, but will carry its power much deeper into the RPM range.....
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In the end tho you would be best off to try both pipes and see which one you like better then report back here with what you found..... I have seen different conditions and layouts like certain pipes better then others...Pipes can be used to fine tune your engines characteristics to match your conditions and driving style.... You may like one pipes characteristics on one track and another pipes characteristics on a different track....In the end it is well worth the time to test a few pipes, especially if your looking for a little edge......
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Well here is my thought on this motor after running it over the last three days during an event, The clockwork modified Nova P5XLT is an awsome 5 port motor, power on demand and even better run time, Well let me explain because the motor is only 6 litres old I didnt want to risk a 10 minute heat on the engine during the national title event but Neal convinced me to test the run time during my 10 minute practice prior to the semi finals bump up and WOW came to mind, 12 minutes later at race pace the engine was in the pits still idling away on the pit wall, I had to stop the motor running to leave the pit area so the next group could make there way in, so 12 minutes and counting with a temp of 209f.

This motor has plenty of power to race in a truggy around a track with a top end that had no issue with the 170 feet straight thats for sure and I believe it has more to offer once the pinch is all but gone from the engine, with a M2C clutch, 4 reg hard shoes, 2 x 1.0 & 2 x .95 springs and 8 grub screw weights fitted and running on a 7.5 venturi the engine deliveres great power right from the second you touch the controls and it comes on so smooth when using control and can be an animal if your trigger happy too.

I would highly recommend this engine for people not wanting to go and spend hundreds of more dollars on top end motors as this baby is the goods and the proof is in the pudding.

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Originally Posted by savagesam
Well here is my thought on this motor after running it over the last three days during an event, The clockwork modified Nova P5XLT is an awsome 5 port motor, power on demand and even better run time, Well let me explain because the motor is only 6 litres old I didnt want to risk a 10 minute heat on the engine during the national title event but Neal convinced me to test the run time during my 10 minute practice prior to the semi finals bump up and WOW came to mind, 12 minutes later at race pace the engine was in the pits still idling away on the pit wall, I had to stop the motor running to leave the pit area so the next ground could make there way in, so 12 minutes and counting with a temp of 209f.

This motor has plenty of power to race in a truggy around a track with a top end that had no issue with the 170 feet straight thats for sure and I believe it has more to offer once the pinch is all but gone from the engine, with a M2C clutch, 4 reg hard shoes, 2 x 1.0 & 2 x .95 springs and 8 grub screw weights fitted and running on a 7.5 venturi the engine deliveres great power right from the second you touch the controls and it comes on so smooth when using control and can be an animal if your trigger happy too.

I would highly recommend this engine for people not wanting to go and spend hundreds of more dollars on top end motors as this baby is the goods and the proof is in the pudding.

Wow ! I knew the Clocked P5 had wicked power, but I wasn't too sure on runtimes yet....but dam 12 minutes runtime at race pace and barely cracking 200 F...that is sweet !.... i think we will have a few 7 port owners scratching their heads on this one !
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Well I went to the park today and tested the Ofna short header and 086 pipe on this engine and the rev range increased over other pipes I had tested, sounds nasty and has a killer pull off the line with a nice smooth curve right through to the top end that seems to be extremely close to the novarossi banito
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Originally Posted by Maximo
the 2058 will give you the most performance of the 3...I myself do not like the 053 pipes, they take away too much top end...the 2058 will have as much bottom as the 053, but will carry its power much deeper into the RPM range.....
So 2058 or JP3? I've been breaking in my P5 with the JP3 as I've heard some good things from local P5 racers using this pipe. I've got a 2058, too. Which will provide more overall power?

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Originally Posted by TX_Punisher
So 2058 or JP3? I've been breaking in my P5 with the JP3 as I've heard some good things from local P5 racers using this pipe. I've got a 2058, too. Which will provide more overall power?

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i would say the 2058 would have a much better feel than the jp-3

jp-3 works very well on many engines as do alot of pipes but as always there are mo' betta' pipesets for the engine you are running or at least a pipeset that has a feel to it that you might be looking for


my vote goes to the 2096ss/41021 setup
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I also was thinking of gettin this engine but don't want to buy another pipe so will either of these do ok dyna 086, 0801,2081,or the jp4
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Originally Posted by rawdawgga
I also was thinking of gettin this engine but don't want to buy another pipe so will either of these do ok dyna 086, 0801,2081,or the jp4

MY version loves the 086...TT members also get a discount !
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Originally Posted by rawdawgga
I also was thinking of gettin this engine but don't want to buy another pipe so will either of these do ok dyna 086, 0801,2081,or the jp4
the dynamite 086hs works killer on the p5xlt , make sure the inside of the pipe is clean though



MY version REALLY likes the 2096/41021


Its all in good fun guys

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Anyone tried p5xlt with the werks 2057?
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Yearh, 086 and an ultra short manifold (shorter than 41021 works perfect) gives so much power and the engines just keeps revs even with a very little venturi. Will try an OS 5,5 mm venturi in my Novarossi, Sirio (Novarossi carb.) and HPI engine.
I've tried the pipeset on 4 different engines (Nosram, HPI, Novarossi and Sirio). Very impressed. Have to check the runtime compared to 9901 though.
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Hey Monty, how does the runtime very with the 2096 from the 9901?
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Originally Posted by Hobbs263
Hey Monty, how does the runtime very with the 2096 from the 9901?
Pretty similar actually , might favor a little to the 2096ss
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Update...
P5XLT H.E.S. Team
Track: RC Factory - Jeffersonville, OH (indoor)
Air Temp: 35 in AM, 45 later
Plug: C6TGC
Venturi: 7mm from Ninja JX
Fuel: 30% VP/Powermaster
Pipe: 2096SS
Header: 41021
Vehicle: Serpent 811T
Clutch: M2C (4-Med shoes, 1.0 springs), 4 wt screws on outer row

Right around the 1 gal mark, engine has not 'dropped' yet. Ran the Midwest Challenge warm race, lap times in the low 22 sec range. Temps were chilly, early in the morning it was probably 35 degrees inside. My mid afternoon maybe 5-10 degrees warmer.

Pre-heated engine with comp heat each run, fires right up. My first real race with the combo and was pleasantly surprised at the performance. Considered going to a C5TGC plug but figured I'd keep the stock plug in for the day.

The bottom end is vintage P5 which I love in a truggy. The mid/top pulls very hard but its a smooth transition. This combo is much smoother than any P5 based engine I've ever driven. Top end speed is impossible to gauge on the indoor track, however I can tell the engine is no slouch on top. Cannot wait to get it outside and see how far it pulls a long straight.

Fuel economy is one of the issues with the older P5 engines. While its a bit hard to judge on an indoor track, it appears decent when I compared to a few others after our 7 min qualifiers. I ran the engine at around 205-210 all day long...so once the engine 'drops' and I lean it out, I'd expect the fuel economy to be very good.

My goal was to use this combo indoors and on short tracks and for that it's a home run. Obviously the verdict is still out on the top speed and fuel economy, though my early indicators show it will be equally impressive in these two categories as well. At the current price point even for the HES Team version, this engine is a fantastic bargain.

Many thanks to Monty for performing his magic and to Porkchop for talking me into running this exact engine.
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