Originally Posted by Werks

In Hong Kong now so only 14 more hours in the plane to go lol! Regarding your post I'am proud but more than that I'm just tired. Tired of having to constantly sit here and validate/prove the quality/performance of our engines to people people that seem to race nothing more than a keyboard. I would have though that our performance at the worlds would have been enough but not one day later the keyboard jockies are cracking jokes about it like it amounts to nothing. Yet and still we did the entire event on one single B6. This includes all of the practice sessions, 6x qualifiers, 1x semi final practice, 1x 30'minute semi final and the 60 minute finals! We had not one single engine problem, not one single flame out, nothing (not even a rod change just to be safe!) our engine was perfect the entire event. I'm not even going to get into the issues that some of the other guys had like random flame outs/tunig issues with the new vspec replacement that i witnessed personaly in the car of one of the top drivers from another country that was pitting in our container. Or how it seems like several drivers running the new speed were constantly bending the slides on their new carbs and they all went back to the old carb because the old ones tune better etc etc. My point being that if you want to talk about things then it's best to actualy know what you are talking about because as the saying goes it's not smart to throw rocks if you live in a glass house. Just something to think about, instead of blindly repeating things that others say and/or believe try getting involved in racing at a higher level so that you can find out what is actually going on out there first hand instead of being the mouth piece for others.

Originally Posted by one-eight

Ron-There are plenty of us sitting quietly that plan to get a Werks.( Im getting a clocked one). You cant take a few spazzes as the majority. I saw something about driving Lexus cars on the previous page and they were swiftly added to my ignore list on my user control panel.

Originally Posted by Werks

In Hong Kong now so only 14 more hours in the plane to go lol! Regarding your post I'am proud but more than that I'm just tired. Tired of having to constantly sit here and validate/prove the quality/performance of our engines to people people that seem to race nothing more than a keyboard. I would have though that our performance at the worlds would have been enough but not one day later the keyboard jockies are cracking jokes about it like it amounts to nothing. Yet and still we did the entire event on one single B6. This includes all of the practice sessions, 6x qualifiers, 1x semi final practice, 1x 30'minute semi final and the 60 minute finals! We had not one single engine problem, not one single flame out, nothing (not even a rod change just to be safe!) our engine was perfect the entire event. I'm not even going to get into the issues that some of the other guys had like random flame outs/tunig issues with the new vspec replacement that i witnessed personaly in the car of one of the top drivers from another country that was pitting in our container. Or how it seems like several drivers running the new speed were constantly bending the slides on their new carbs and they all went back to the old carb because the old ones tune better etc etc. My point being that if you want to talk about things then it's best to actualy know what you are talking about because as the saying goes it's not smart to throw rocks if you live in a glass house. Just something to think about, instead of blindly repeating things that others say and/or believe try getting involved in racing at a higher level so that you can find out what is actually going on out there first hand instead of being the mouth piece for others.

Originally Posted by JAMMINKRAZY

It doesn't surprise me that there were more problems with OS engines at the race than your single werks engine that you had at the event. With 21% of the engines racing being OS, I would say there is a lot more chance of an issue than having only one werks engine there. I mean come on, what is more likely to have an issue, one engine or 21% of the field? Stop trying to sugar coat your products. If you're going to get into stories like this, at least tell the whole truth. Yeah, you did well with your one engine at the worlds. No one can say otherwise, but if we're going to compare, we need to be fair about it. Lets see there was an OS in the final and a Werks in the final. Why don't we use those two to compare? Hara's OS seemed to run pretty well, getting him a second place finish, only 1.9 seconds back from the leader.

Seems like OS must be doing something right... 21% of all engines used at the worlds were OS.

Originally Posted by Jaz240

I think its weird that XRAY has 1% of engines listed. When the hell did XRAY start making engines?

Originally Posted by Maximo

I really figured you had more sense then this my friend.... Allspeed and Justleanit have been bad mouthing the Werk's engines every chance they get.... pages upon pages of BS has been posted in my thread by these guys.......... Ron finally had enough and came here and defended his engines, but only after being repeatedly antagonized........Now your going to come here and get all butt hurt by Ron responding to these guys !........Ron's not the one bashing on OS engines, he didn't start this, he instigated none of this.........You guys are the ones bashing on the Werk's engines first, so don't cry like a baby when Ron finally has enough and retaliates...

I am unbiased when it comes to engines, but honestly you OS guys are taking this way too far....We all know you love OS engines, but that doesn't give you the right to come here and bash on every other manufacturers products....I don't see Ron bashing on OS engines in any other threads other then this one which he has been thoroghly antagonized to do so...I expect this type of childish response from Justleanit or Allspeed, but I thought you were more mature then that Coby ...look at the big picture as to why Ron made the post he did before you start jumping down the guys throat... IMHO Ron has every right to speak up...

21% of all the engines at the Worlds were OS..yet that single Werk's beat every one of them but one....so obviously Werk's is doing something right !

Originally Posted by JAMMINKRAZY

I just don't think it is very professional for a company owner to slander another brand to promote his own products. Yeah he's been coerced to do so by some childish comments, however is it better to respond with more bashing and hate, or be the bigger man and move on?? I can't even believe I have to say this for people to see it. Promote your products all you like Ron, but don't bash others in the process. That's what you have fans for. Let them do the bashing if need be, but to me it is very unprofessional for you to bash another company to promote your products. That's all I'm saying. Take my comment how you like, but that was my intention.

Originally Posted by Werks

You know I'm sitting in the airport in Bangkok heading home now and get to again read your nonsense. The clockwork thread is about clockwork engines, why don't you stop instigating and try adding something productive to conversations for once. And as far as Ham or anyone else even needing to get together to race against you to prove something about our engines, there is absolutely no need for that. We already did that this week here. If you are as good as you seem to be insinuating you could have tried to even qualify to be selected for the US worlds team (which you could have done at last years nats by finishing in the top 30), then you could have come here and tried to outqualify 150 or so of the world best drivers to even make it into the 1/2 semis. Then you too could have raced against 12 of the worlds fastest driver in that 1/2 hour semi and finished in the top 5 to even "EARN THE RIGHT" to run in the finals for 1 hour with the 12 best drivers in the world. If you have ever done that then feel free to make jokes about it, otherwise you might just want to be quite because you have no idea of the amount of work, effort, dedication and commitment that it takes to accomplish that and anyone even the guy that finished dead last in the finals deserves respect for even making it there!

Originally Posted by JAMMINKRAZY

I just don't think it is very professional for a company owner to slander another brand to promote his own products. Yeah he's been coerced to do so by some childish comments, however is it better to respond with more bashing and hate, or be the bigger man and move on?? I can't even believe I have to say this for people to see it. Promote your products all you like Ron, but don't bash others in the process. That's what you have fans for. Let them do the bashing if need be, but to me it is very unprofessional for you to bash another company to promote/defend your products. That's all I'm saying. Take my comment how you like, but that was my intention.

And besides was what I posted not true??? Which is more likely to have an issue? One engine or almost 1/4 of the field?

Originally Posted by Maximo

Ron is in the middle of a 19 hour flight from Thailand...he just finished the Worlds race... I am sure he's dead tired and going on next to no sleep.... So cut the guy some slack........ The Werk's Team just did a kickass job at the Worlds and I am sure the last thing Ron wants to see is a bunch of morons bashing on his product.....

Coby you should be smarter then this... ! Do you really want to join the Justleanit and Allspeed Club ? Do you really want to be associated with their behavior ? You guys are doing nothing but turning people off of OS engines by acting this way, and destroying any credability you may have ever had on these forums... Coby even locals who race with you have been commenting on how your behavior is turning them off OS engines...We get it dude, you love OS engines, you don't need to stoop to the Alspeed,Justleanit level to show your support..OS doesn't care, nor does the rest of these forums...As I say you should be smarter then this !

Originally Posted by kgombe

i've mentioned this in the past also... it is what it is...


and for the record guys... Werks, OS, Nova, Orion, Did not win the worlds or make it to the finals... maturity and very skilled driving made it to the finals and Cody King won.. Cody King is the man... he was spot on with his decisions on when to check up and let it flow... get over it.... time to move on from this nonsence..

and i luv Lexus 460 over Camry...

Originally Posted by JAMMINKRAZY

I just don't think it is very professional for a company owner to slander another brand to promote his own products. Yeah he's been coerced to do so by some childish comments, however is it better to respond with more bashing and hate, or be the bigger man and move on?? I can't even believe I have to say this for people to see it. Promote your products all you like Ron, but don't bash others in the process. That's what you have fans for. Let them do the bashing if need be, but to me it is very unprofessional for you to bash another company to promote/defend your products. That's all I'm saying. Take my comment how you like, but that was my intention.

And besides was what I posted not true??? Which is more likely to have an issue? One engine or almost 1/4 of the field?