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Old 03-11-2012, 08:18 PM
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i have a R5T on the way for my Serpent 811. I cant wait to run it.
tighten all the screws on the buggy or better yet put thread lock on the screws coz this is one wicked engine.lol
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:26 PM
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Just wanted to give a some feedback on this motor, i'm running the R5T with the REDS 2069 pipe this weekend at the Phycho nitro blast where all qualifiers were 10 mins so runtime was important! When lots were pitting in the qualifiers i was able to get 11:30 on a tank with temps at 220-230! Engine has awesome power and super smooth, I was running a P3 plug but will be testing more with reds plugs. I am also running an ascendany clutch with 2 carbon/.9 springs, 2 aluminum/1.0 springs and this combo seemed to put this motor in the PERFECT power range. If you are even considering this motor, I HIGHLY recommend it, couldn't be happier with this motor !
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:43 PM
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This is a Picco-based engine, right? If so, lots of people are always saying don't run OS plugs in Picco(and other Italian engines pretty much..) Or if you do, don't change away from OS cuz it'll bung up the taper..

I don't necessarily believe it - but you hear it a lot...
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Originally Posted by Herrsavage View Post
This is a Picco-based engine, right? If so, lots of people are always saying don't run OS plugs in Picco(and other Italian engines pretty much..) Or if you do, don't change away from OS cuz it'll bung up the taper..

I don't necessarily believe it - but you hear it a lot...
OS P3 works fine in the button. The newly designed REDS plugs are awesome though.
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Old 03-13-2012, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Herrsavage View Post
This is a Picco-based engine, right? If so, lots of people are always saying don't run OS plugs in Picco(and other Italian engines pretty much..) Or if you do, don't change away from OS cuz it'll bung up the taper..

I don't necessarily believe it - but you hear it a lot...
The OS plugs do not run nearly as nicely, and they do definitely bend up the seat inside the button, however you can switch back and forth, you just need to tighten the plugs like crazy ( borderline strip ) ..... We all don't come to these forums just to lie to people you know ! Lots of guys here many times more experienced then you are, and none of them would have any reason to lie about this kind of thing whatsoever.......... IMHO OS plugs suck in anything but a OS, they are hot and fragile and always create a high pinging idle in a Picco or Nova.....tho in Europe your fuel seems to be much less combustible then the fuels here so maybe you do need to run a ultra hot plug just to burn that swill you guys have over there.....Over here I can always tell the Picco's running a OS or OD plug as they don't idle down properly and always have to be run quite rich to overcome the ultra hot element...killing performance, runtime and usually leaving the telltale detonation pits in the head............
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So everyone running an OS plug in a non-OS engine is the one lying and/or clueless then - including of course those in this thread.. Whatever..

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So everyone running an OS plug in a non-OS engine is the one lying and/or clueless then - including of course those in this thread.. Whatever..
slow down.. what i think Neal is saying is that you can do it, but its not the best for the motor. and i think he may have more engine expirence then alot of guys here. just because there are ppl doing it doesn't mean its correct or right in any way..

i don't know what you think he's lying about?
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I've never said anyone is lying.. He said that I said he was lying, is what's going on here.

There are lots of guys - sponsored, high-level guys - who swear by OS plugs in non-OS engines. So what, are they lying? Daniel Reckward for ex - who recently finished in the top ten at a major race with all the big names - recommends the P3 on his website for the RB Fire 11 engine. Is he lying? Or is he clueless? The RC nitro world does not revolve around one guy in Canada, regardless of how much experience he has. And especially regardless of how offensive he is to anyone who doesn't automatically do what he says.

It was not my intention at all to junk up this thread with trash-talking. Maximo did that - as usual... I was only asking about the using of P3 plugs in Reds engines in an attempt to better understand the issue. I'm running a Picco-based engine myself, so am interested..., that's all.

BTW - Reds engines caught my attention with this video..:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eBoPFnDxz8

Looks wicked..
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Originally Posted by Herrsavage View Post
I've never said anyone is lying.. He said that I said he was lying, is what's going on here.

There are lots of guys - sponsored, high-level guys - who swear by OS plugs in non-OS engines. So what, are they lying? Daniel Reckward for ex - who recently finished in the top ten at a major race with all the big names - recommends the P3 on his website for the RB Fire 11 engine. Is he lying? Or is he clueless? The RC nitro world does not revolve around one guy in Canada, regardless of how much experience he has. And especially regardless of how offensive he is to anyone who doesn't automatically do what he says.

It was not my intention at all to junk up this thread with trash-talking. Maximo did that - as usual... I was only asking about the using of P3 plugs in Reds engines in an attempt to better understand the issue. I'm running a Picco-based engine myself, so am interested..., that's all.

BTW - Reds engines caught my attention with this video..:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eBoPFnDxz8
OS plugs are HOT ! very hot..........The only reason someone would want to run one in a engine like a Fire 11 for example is if someone was trying to work around a less combustible fuel...as in lower nitro, higher oil, higher water content etc, or if they were running at high altitude.........On this side of the pond with the fuels we run the OS plugs tend to be way too hot.... !
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I don't know. In my basher MT engines I always run cold plugs - and often have guys tell me to run something hotter.. I personally am skeptical of P3's anyway(prefer P4's). I'm not saying they are great. All I'm doing is trying to clarify the issue - that's it. And I don't think the answer is "everyone in Europe runs crap fuel". Or "swill".....

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Originally Posted by Herrsavage View Post
I don't know. In my basher MT engines I always run cold plugs - and often have guys tell me to run something hotter.. I personally am skeptical of P3's anyway(prefer P4's). I'm not saying they are great. All I'm doing is trying to clarify the issue - that's it. And I don't think the answer is "everyone in Europe runs crap fuel". Or "swill".....
A lot of the REDS team guys are running the 5C in the R5T which I was told was in between a P3 and P4. I have been running them for the past few months now without any issue. P3 was once recommended from Mario before we got the new plug design and what I ran last year. I listen to Mario when he speaks.
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Old 03-18-2012, 12:27 AM
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Hi all I just get my new r5t, the engine new use how many gallon to break in ya?
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LOL Neal.


I have always said to others that the OS plugs is the "idiot" plug. It makes all kinds of engine run, easy to tune and work, uptil 85% of its performance.

If you learn to tune and understand engines, you will find better performance in the glowplugs that usually are made by the same brand your engine is. That is the rule of thumb.

At the worlds in 2004, i took my enigne to Mario with a bad rear bearing, made alot of noice. I asked if it was bad and Mimmo form Crono was the translater as Mario do not speak english... My bearing was just fine... I have alway said Mario Rossi is one of the great engine guys outthere, bu tsomtimes it makes you wonder
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Hi all, just get my new R5T, I just want to ask need use how many gallon of nitro to break in?
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Old 03-19-2012, 07:12 AM
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what is the size of the silver venturi that is included on the R5? can i use nova plugs on the engine?
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