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Old 05-25-2012 | 03:46 PM
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My friend is having a barbecue in a park and we planning on running our buggies. But the smell of nitro Might bother ppl so we thinking of buying Parma nitro speed scent. They come in different scent like cherry. I think if we used it, it won't bother ppl as much. My question is will the nitro scent do any harm to our Nova or Werks .21 engines?


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The burning of the "smelly jelly" does leave residue inside the engine but its not gonna ruin it , all good
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Old 05-25-2012 | 06:33 PM
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My personal method which I use is as follows

Mount engine in car , preheat engine using competition heat engine warmer (easiest most prefered method) , prime engine by blowing into the pressure line and holding carburetor open until fuel has reached all the way into the crank case .

Preheat to a temp of at least 170° fahrenheit , start engine , you might have to keep it idled up a lil at first until engine settles into a smooth idle (hotter plug helps with break in). Monitor temps frequently , if temps start climbing higher unplug comp heat unit , use low speed needle and idle screw adjustment to get engine to idle between 190°-210° . Let idle for 5 min then shut down , leave head covered while idling , repeat this process three times , preheat , idle , shut off , cool down with piston out of the pinch area or BDC .

Next step is similar , preheat , start engine , idle for a minute or so , make sure carb is fairly close to "in balance" but hsn fairly rich lsn 2-3 hrs rich of a race tune and run car on the ground for approx. 10 min. , you will have to tune engine so it stays at 190°-210° while running the car around in a parking lot with the body on (do not over rev, use 40'-50' lengths so as not to gain too many rpm's) , no head cover . Repeat this process 3 times - preheat , run car on ground for 10 min., shut off , cool down with piston at bdc .

Next step is same as on ground intervals but this time do 30 min intervals on the ground with the body on no head cover . You can start to drive car on track for this but do not over lean engine , do not over rev!!!!!! , keep temps between 190-210F and do not "blip" the throttle , all these steps are important .

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Originally Posted by houston
My personal method which I use is as follows

Mount engine in car , preheat engine using competition heat engine warmer (easiest most prefered method) , prime engine by blowing into the pressure line and holding carburetor open until fuel has reached all the way into the crank case .

Preheat to a temp of at least 170° fahrenheit , start engine , you might have to keep it idled up a lil at first until engine settles into a smooth idle (hotter plug helps with break in). Monitor temps frequently , if temps start climbing higher unplug comp heat unit , use low speed needle and idle screw adjustment to get engine to idle between 190°-210° . Let idle for 5 min then shut down , leave head covered while idling , repeat this process three times , preheat , idle , shut off , cool down with piston out of the pinch area or BDC .

Next step is similar , preheat , start engine , idle for a minute or so , make sure carb is fairly close to "in balance" but hsn fairly rich lsn 2-3 hrs rich of a race tune and run car on the ground for approx. 10 min. , you will have to tune engine so it stays at 190°-210° while running the car around in a parking lot with the body on (do not over rev, use 40'-50' lengths so as not to gain too many rpm's) , no head cover . Repeat this process 3 times - preheat , run car on ground for 10 min., shut off , cool down with piston at bdc .

Next step is same as on ground intervals but this time do 30 min intervals on the ground with the body on no head cover . You can start to drive car on track for this but do not over lean engine , do not over rev!!!!!! , keep temps between 190-210F and do not "blip" the throttle , all these steps are important .

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Monty Houston
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Stickied this to my ever growing engine file. Thanks for putting words to paper (errrrr digital paper) Monty!
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Originally Posted by houston
My personal method which I use is as follows

Mount engine in car , preheat engine using competition heat engine warmer (easiest most prefered method) , prime engine by blowing into the pressure line and holding carburetor open until fuel has reached all the way into the crank case .

Preheat to a temp of at least 170° fahrenheit , start engine , you might have to keep it idled up a lil at first until engine settles into a smooth idle (hotter plug helps with break in). Monitor temps frequently , if temps start climbing higher unplug comp heat unit , use low speed needle and idle screw adjustment to get engine to idle between 190°-210° . Let idle for 5 min then shut down , leave head covered while idling , repeat this process three times , preheat , idle , shut off , cool down with piston out of the pinch area or BDC .

Next step is similar , preheat , start engine , idle for a minute or so , make sure carb is fairly close to "in balance" but hsn fairly rich lsn 2-3 hrs rich of a race tune and run car on the ground for approx. 10 min. , you will have to tune engine so it stays at 190°-210° while running the car around in a parking lot with the body on (do not over rev, use 40'-50' lengths so as not to gain too many rpm's) , no head cover . Repeat this process 3 times - preheat , run car on ground for 10 min., shut off , cool down with piston at bdc .

Next step is same as on ground intervals but this time do 30 min intervals on the ground with the body on no head cover . You can start to drive car on track for this but do not over lean engine , do not over rev!!!!!! , keep temps between 190-210F and do not "blip" the throttle , all these steps are important .

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So is this your break in procedure or an answer to another post?

Thanks Bill
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Old 05-26-2012 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 1airborne
So is this your break in procedure or an answer to another post?

Thanks Bill
when i do a full in car break in , this is the method
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when i do a full in car break in , this is the method
When you say "no head cover" do you mean, no heater cover on the head?

Thanks 1airborne
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Old 05-27-2012 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 1airborne
When you say "no head cover" do you mean, no heater cover on the head?

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Yes sir
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Originally Posted by houston
Yes sir
Thanks, your the best engine guy around. Both of my engines are running great. I am going into my 8th gallon on the first one, and took 4th in a recent race with it.
thanks again.

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Old 05-27-2012 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 1airborne
Thanks, your the best engine guy around. Both of my engines are running great. I am going into my 8th gallon on the first one, and took 4th in a recent race with it.
thanks again.

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8GALLONS???? very nice!!!

i am very glad you are happy with your engines bro , keep me updated , i love to hear your guys' stories, good , bad or ugly im here to help ya
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Hope the engine got to you in one piece Monty! I know you just got it late last week, just curious if you'd even had a chance to give it a once over to see if there was anything that jumped out at you right off the bat?

Definitely not pushing or anything, just curious
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Originally Posted by KSimmonds
Hope the engine got to you in one piece Monty! I know you just got it late last week, just curious if you'd even had a chance to give it a once over to see if there was anything that jumped out at you right off the bat?

Definitely not pushing or anything, just curious
Done , call ya tmrw
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Done , call ya tmrw

Sounds good, thanks!
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As most of you probably already know, Monty is first rate when it comes to customer service! I'd just like to thank him for going above and beyond with an issue I was having on my plus 4. Thank you Monty!
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Old 05-30-2012 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by KSimmonds
As most of you probably already know, Monty is first rate when it comes to customer service! I'd just like to thank him for going above and beyond with an issue I was having on my plus 4. Thank you Monty!
its just the way i roll Kyle

i try to support the products you guys choose to get from me man , its the way i would expect to get treated so i do it
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Old 05-30-2012 | 08:39 PM
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$215 for a plus 4 that for real? cant pass up on that price looks like im gonna have to scarp the P5 and just get that

i know this been covered a ton of times but 9901 or 2096 in buggy cant decide
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