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Old 01-24-2023, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony Newland
The rest we make! The crankshaft, boost and ported rear cover, head button and cooling head.
Backplate and head I can understand, but why the crankshaft? Have not heard any quality issues of the Alpha crankshafts so it is a timing thing or a treatment thing?
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Old 01-24-2023, 10:27 PM
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I may have been a little hard in this response so I will re say what I should have said, your 100 years was a bit offensive to anyone who follows the sport and knows what this engine is. Rebranding an engine is not putting those years in helping bring a new product that’s better to the market, it’s putting in no work.
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Old 01-25-2023, 07:38 AM
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Junk engine, that is a bit of a stretch. There are a bunch of guys I know that run engines from Alpha, and have not had any issues. I've discussed this brand with Roelof before. As Roelof said he hasn't heard of any issues with the crank. All he was pointing out was that he recognized the engine was based on Alpha, he never said it was junk haha. He was simply pointing out the possibility, that this was just a straight up re-badge, he never once said it was junk lol. If Alpha is junk, so is Ultimate Racing, and other Brands that use OS as a base. Alpha is a legit Taiwan Manufacturer. This isn't some SH or China no name RTR engine brand.
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Old 01-28-2023, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Roelof
Backplate and head I can understand, but why the crankshaft? Have not heard any quality issues of the Alpha crankshafts so it is a timing thing or a treatment thing?
Yes exactly, timing and we will offer DLC coated and filled soon
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Old 01-28-2023, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt Piva
I may have been a little hard in this response so I will re say what I should have said, your 100 years was a bit offensive to anyone who follows the sport and knows what this engine is. Rebranding an engine is not putting those years in helping bring a new product thatís better to the market, itís putting in no work.
The combined experience of the people involved in developing our own engine is over 100 years nitro racing at all levels. No offense intended, just wanted to mention that we didn't just relabel something existing. We spent quite a bit of time throughout the last year developing each component. Design, test, improve. Takes time.I think you misread our description, it's not a simple relabel. I don't see any point in doing that. There's already 20+ OS relabels etc etc
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I am curious to see where this goes. The amount of tooling required to manufacture an engine is pretty costly. Getting your feet wet before jumping in the pool can only be a good thing. Good luck with this project.
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Originally Posted by Pharcyed
I am curious to see where this goes. The amount of tooling required to manufacture an engine is pretty costly. Getting your feet wet before jumping in the pool can only be a good thing. Good luck with this project.
You will be amazed what a decent industrial CNC machine can do, that isn't the problem. The complicity is more with the choice of materials and mainly the piston and sleeve with their expansion rates. If you do not get that right you will lose a lot of performance while at the same time a lot of suppliers of piston materials are not that happy if you want a wide range of samples to try.
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Originally Posted by Roelof
You will be amazed what a decent industrial CNC machine can do, that isn't the problem. The complicity is more with the choice of materials and mainly the piston and sleeve with their expansion rates. If you do not get that right you will lose a lot of performance while at the same time a lot of suppliers of piston materials are not that happy if you want a wide range of samples to try.
I'd be extremely surprised if a CNC mill is able to cast an engine block.
And if you were to try and cut it from a solid chunk it would impossible or a $1000+ engine requiring a $600k+ 5 axis CNC to make.

This isn't stuff you make in the garage with a 3D printer from Amazon.
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I'd be extremely surprised if a CNC mill is able to cast an engine block.
And if you were to try and cut it from a solid chunk it would impossible or a $1000+ engine requiring a $600k+ 5 axis CNC to make.

This isn't stuff you make in the garage with a 3D printer from Amazon.
I was talking about the close precise fit of a sleeve and piston....
The 1st BP engine was actually a 2 piece milled crankcase Red RC Ľ BP Racing 735 Engine
And yes, casting is the most simple way to make the crankcase although it still need to be milled for the perfect finishing fit of all the parts.
Casting is with today's technology very simple and affordable so I was told. You can 3D print a crankcase with wax and use it as a mold with sand casting. 3D wax printing can be done at home, even sand casting can be done although with mass production a specialised company will do it better and faster.
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So it was cheaper to gut an engine, use the case and PSR and make a new crankshaft and head??? Could this have not been spec'd from the OEM? Unless you are only getting a few engine parts vs. Full assembled ones??
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Originally Posted by Matt Piva
I may have been a little hard in this response so I will re say what I should have said, your 100 years was a bit offensive to anyone who follows the sport and knows what this engine is. Rebranding an engine is not putting those years in helping bring a new product thatís better to the market, itís putting in no work.
how does anyone know what this engine is when it hasnít been released yet?

why are so many people quick to jump down others throats. We have a rc company here investing time and money to hopefully make better products so we all have a better experience with RC. But we want to type away on the keyboard and hate instead???
I have purchased a few items from Klinik. Not only were they quality items but they were unique and something no one else was offering. They donít seem to just slap their name on anything.
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Originally Posted by wely324
how does anyone know what this engine is when it hasnít been released yet?
Only a blind man is not able to see it. The pics shown on the news sites shows a typical Alpha design crankcase and the V shape cut in the sleeve is also only typical Alpha.
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Originally Posted by Roelof
Only a blind man is not able to see it. The pics shown on the news sites shows a typical Alpha design crankcase and the V shape cut in the sleeve is also only typical Alpha.
I understand that we know itís an alpha, but maybe there have been modifications to the crank or the ports etc, which would go almost unnoticeable.
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Old 02-17-2023, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by wely324
I understand that we know itís an alpha, but maybe there have been modifications to the crank or the ports etc, which would go almost unnoticeable.
Yet many other modders of off the shelf Motors do not go out of their way to hide the base motor, and reclaim it as a new Motor! I.e. MAG tuned, Rody, MLC, Uriah, Max, Drake and such. Sure there are companies that buy a motor to relabel, yet still provide the OEM info, like Ultimate, LRP and others... not sure this falls in line.
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Originally Posted by 1/8 IC Fan
Yet many other modders of off the shelf Motors do not go out of their way to hide the base motor, and reclaim it as a new Motor! I.e. MAG tuned, Rody, MLC, Uriah, Max, Drake and such. Sure there are companies that buy a motor to relabel, yet still provide the OEM info, like Ultimate, LRP and others... not sure this falls in line.
I visited their website, I see what you are saying.
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