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Old 02-25-2012, 10:25 AM
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OK a new season of dirt oval is coming so its time for a new thread. One hot topic that is going on right now is the development of the 1/8th scale electric class, Fred Forg has been elected to to oversee the introduction this class into our schedule, He is also trying to round up a list of racers that are committed to racing this class, so if you got one, are getting one or plan on it, talk to Fred.

Another couple of isssues that are being discussed is the motors for the stock classes. It has been proposed that we switch the 13.5 electric classes on the dirt oval to 21.5, if you race 1/10th sprint, 1/10th 4wd or Transmission, contact Club President Jim Baldwin and let him know your thoughts on which direction you would like to see us go.

On the Losi side of things, we're still looking into a motor package for the 1/10th slider spec as there have been complaints about the stock motors not lasting as long. We're also trying to develope a brushless package for 1/18th scale.

We want the racers to have a say in how these rule packages come together, its your time, your money and your club, so get involved. Contact board members about Rules, Follow emails, The next meeting will be important, if you cant make it send your proxy vote, one person attending the meeting can personally bring 3 proxy votes, or you can send it in by email, so if you dont give your input over the next month, dont be suprised if the classes end up being run in a manner your happy with

After 2 years of being your dirt oval director, i have decided not to continue, i will continue to be the track announcer, webmaster and club promotor. I do also plan to promote a charity race again this year to benefit the Alger foodbank. Last year we raised almost $1,700 and a half of an F150 full of food. We raffled off over $3500 dollars retail worth of rc prizes. Our race got covered in 2 newspapers and on two radio stations as well as gave some greatly needed help to the Alger Foodbank that really needs the help in this economic times. So please talk to me about any potential sponsors that may help out and please attend, a date has not been set.

I hope to see a killer car count and a lot of good racing on the dirt oval this year. Good luck to all....Lets go Racin!!!!



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NORA proposed rule for:


1/8 Electric Late Model Dirt Oval


Chassis:
Must be 1/8 production based 4 WD buggy drive train.(Losi,Ofna,X-Ray and so on)
No offsetting a-arms or narrowing of a-arms
Must have dog bone center drive train, no on-road drive trains.

Wheel base: 12 5/8" to 13"
Width: 13" max. - 11 1/4" min.
Any and all parts must be flush or in side the tread width. 1/8 tolerance.
All chassis and tires must remain inside the body.
No metal or carbon fiber front bumpers.
Must have foam on the front bumper.



Motors & Batteries
Any 2250(KV) or less brushless motor with 4 cell lipo
Any 2650 (KV) or less brushless motor with 3 cell lipo


Any 14.8v
Series- Any two 7.4v
Any 11.1v
Must have hobby grade connector!
Must be hard case lipo's!
ROAR charge limit 4.22 per cell max recommended.




Bodies:
Molded one- piece bodies only.
No additional wings, flaps, spoilers, wickers, vents will be allowed.
A hole or holes for motor cooling
Decking is allowed
There will be no metal body parts of any kind.
All bodies must be approved.

Approved Body list:

C&M 2011 "Assassin"
C&M-2009 "Atomic"
Losi# losa8096
Ofna# OFN34046
RJ Speed# 1015 & 1030
A+ one piece
2009 Stalker
2010 Stalker SS
2010 Onstat LM




Side Dam specs:
Running a Side Dam is the tracks choice.
Side dam front leading edge must be at least 4" from center of left front spindle with the wheels
straight.
Side dam can be 5" tall from deck at it's highest point, and cannot extend past rear spoiler.
Must have two tethers at least 8" apart.
Side dam must be on left side!

Rear Spoiler Specs:
Rear spoiler can only be as wide as the body at the rear quarter panels.
Rear spoiler 3" max from deck. The end caps must be a triangle shape.
You may have one fin on the spoiler and two side caps.
The third fin must also be the same dimension as side cap.
It can be located anywhere on the spoiler between the two side caps. The fin must be in line with the side
caps on the front leading edge.


Foam tire specs:
Max tire diameter- 106mm Max tire width- 46mm
All wheels must be 17mm buggy based.
Weight:
8-1/2 lb. At any time
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Do not know if I can make the meetings do to my work schedule. I would like to see a change in stock motors for the club. I here a lot of complaints on the cost of a new motor for the classes, I am sure since 13.5 was voted in as the clubs stock motor that they have bought new motors since. A 21.5 or 17.5 as the stock motor would bring the racing back to driver and by slowing them down would save money on parts.

The box stock slider class should be dropped since they do not make that kit anymore so you won't have a new driver coming from the hobby store. Just make an electric stock sprint car class with 21.5 or 17.5 and a mod class with brush or brushless motors but no brush motors in stock
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17.5 no-timing ESC if you are going to spec stock down a little, 13.5 was fine what has made it too fast is open ESC. 21.5 with big heavy transmission cars will be way too slow.

If 21.5 is the spec I won't run stock myself, I'll only come on mod night, which might be the case anyhow if the 1/8e class is on that night.
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1/8E is scheduled to run every Fri night, Series 1 and 2.
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Originally Posted by C_O_jones View Post
1/8E is scheduled to run every Fri night, Series 1 and 2.
Okay cool, you can count me in for probably every other weekend anyhow. Can't race every week, I have flying to do
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If you really want to spec things, consider a spec package like the ORCA Spark motor/esc combo. Very cheap and would increase the focus on the drivers ability over the horsepower.

However I agree the just dropping to blinks versus open speedo will do the same thing.
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Originally Posted by Wes Briscoe View Post
17.5 no-timing ESC if you are going to spec stock down a little, 13.5 was fine what has made it too fast is open ESC. 21.5 with big heavy transmission cars will be way too slow.

If 21.5 is the spec I won't run stock myself, I'll only come on mod night, which might be the case anyhow if the 1/8e class is on that night.
I agree with this. a 21.5 in the slider would make it slow. the bone stock one would be faster
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Originally Posted by mr4tcsdrifter View Post
I agree with this. a 21.5 in the slider would make it slow. the bone stock one would be faster
The 21.5 BL motor rule change would be for all 1/10th Dirt Oval classes for "Stock" Series 1 night other than "Spec Losi 1/10 Slider" which has a proposed rule change to 17.5 BL motor.

Series 2 is for "Mod" 1/10th Dirt Oval classes other than 1/10 Spec Slider.

Series 1 and 2 alternate weekly race nights.

PS. Hope this clears things up cause I'm confused as all get out, but that is how it was presented.
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17.5 was not proposed for 1/10 Dirt Oval.
The rule change vote will only be to change to 21.5 for "Stock"
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is there a proposed schedule out yet? I'm ready to hit the dirt!
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Just to clarify, as C O Jones said, 17.5 was not proposed. The decision is between 13.5 and 21.5, for those who arent familiar with a 21.5 vs 13.5, its a BIG BIG difference. Using the NOVAK ballistic as an example, the 13.5 is 3300 RPM per volt, VS 1800 for the 21.5. Thats a reduction in of 1500 RPM. Multiply that by 7.4v which is the voltage usually run in lipo classes and you get a motor that is 11,100 RPM slower. 24,420rpm vs 13,320 That is a really big jump. I dont have a preference as i will most likely not be racing more than 3 or 4 times during the season, but its kinda of my thought that 17.5 would have been a better proposal, but that is not what was proposed. If you ask most racers that run brushless and most have 13.5's and 17.5 laying around, but 21.5 is way less common, unless you have one left over from the saturday vintage trans am series. I feel that the same drivers that win races in 13.5 will win races in 21.5, its just a matter of your preference as far as speed vs wear and tear on the car vs the cost of buying a 21.5 Those of you who dont want to attend the meeting or cant, you can visit the website www.SkagitRiverRaceway.com and contact club president Jim Baldwin by email. You also have the option of sending a proxy vote to the board via email or by sending it in writing with another club member, no club member can carry more than 3 proxy votes with him or her. Make yourself heard, its your time, your hobby and your wallet.

I look forward to seeing you all for another dirt oval season


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When is the meeting to vote on everything? Can we sign up to be a member at the meeting and vote or do we have to be a registered member prior to the vote?
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next meeting is March 20th
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I can make that one.

Does anyone know the best way to contact Jim Baldwin? I emailed him a few days ago and no response yet, I feel like it is fairly urgent...
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he should be at the carpet track tomorrow night
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