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Old 02-24-2016, 09:58 PM
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I'm curious about that and the on road program... not to early to start things up... it's our only option it looks like...
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Originally Posted by skypilot
whats needed to get the "ball rolling". rock?
Some strong backs, tools and a plan so that if the city questions it we can say this is a crawler / scale course. Would be great to see that happen and the RC park continue to develop into an RC destination for all to use. If setup right I would think the local scale/crawler club would consider doing comps there. One things for sure there is plenty of materials on site to build an awesome course.
On a secondary note there will be meetings coming in March at the track to discuss possible changes and other activities that will be needed to keep the track in good shape. Will post on the FB page and also here when we get dates set.
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Originally Posted by skypilot
what ever happened to plans for rock crawlers, is that still on the table??
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It can happen, just need a group of people willing to get the ball rolling and then committed to the upkeep of the course. We have permission to use the area behind the offroad track as a U4 / scale / crawler area.
The rock crawling crowd has an open door to develop a course south of the current offroad track. At one point I had secured some budget and city staff time to do some clearing and help with some of the heavier work and visited with some of the guys in the club when they were having a comp at the Mountaineers. I thought I managed a pretty decent handoff, but it never moved from there.

That's not to rag on them, it may simply be that existing resources for play are quite good, they're organized around them, and things are set for rock crawling as is. The energy sink/benefit analysis may not have favored moving ahead. But that's admittedly speculation on my part.

As Scott says, the door remains open for development. A cool application might be something along the lines of the "King of Hammers" type crawling/offroad/jumps tracks and gatherings I've seen online. It looks pretty cool and let's just say it's an antidote to the over-groomed sugar tracks that seem to have outdoor offroad in an evil grip (not ours, thankfully!)

I'm more than willing to help credible and energetic people through. I'm getting to know the new management and relationships so far are good. I'm easy to find if anyone wants to talk. But, I'm personally tapped for build energy at the present time.
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Old 02-25-2016, 08:18 AM
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I went up there Sunday and cleared the track of leaves. There is a temp layout there for anyone that wants to put in some laps. I will try to keep it cleared off when I know there will be a few clear days.
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Old 02-25-2016, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Logi Maker
I'm curious about that and the on road program... not to early to start things up... it's our only option it looks like...
Yes, onroad! Have you seen the awesome smooth slab at Seatac? It would make an amazing track!

My goal is a July 9 first race, Kyle. A lot has to happen between now and then. (Is anyone in Seattle City Light management lurking around here?) Support from the city for work this spring has been good so far. But it's also true I need to get off my dime, set some dates for work and races, and get the word out.

As for the eventual program, I'm happy to hear about people's enthusiasms and where their passions lie. I will share that my outdoor onroad motivation is anchored in 1/10 scale touring cars with rubber tires. Specifically, powered by modified motors. Sweet!

What is yours?
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July? Holy crap... I may have a brand new, un run TC with major dust by then... I thought the FW "Program" was moving there? Where did all the pipes end up?

Maybe I will end up with a virgin car for the TZGP.. a fresh TC7 for Keven to play with.
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Old 02-25-2016, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Logi Maker
July? Holy crap... I may have a brand new, un run TC with major dust by then... I thought the FW "Program" was moving there? Where did all the pipes end up?

Maybe I will end up with a virgin car for the TZGP.. a fresh TC7 for Keven to play with.
I think Kyle nominated himself for the asphalt onroad director!

Todd, I do not know how you stay married. Your wife must really love you or you have a 12" bank account If I spent half the time you do keeping up on all the stuff you do, I would be divorced. You do a great job and keep up the good work Sally B. T.

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Old 02-25-2016, 11:13 AM
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I am just an advisor... also trying to sell the wife on a couple of club days down at TZ... told her it's God's country, yada, yada... She will want me to transfer to Portland if she does visit...

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Old 02-29-2016, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PutAwayWet
The rock crawling crowd has an open door to develop a course south of the current offroad track. At one point I had secured some budget and city staff time to do some clearing and help with some of the heavier work and visited with some of the guys in the club when they were having a comp at the Mountaineers. I thought I managed a pretty decent handoff, but it never moved from there.

That's not to rag on them, it may simply be that existing resources for play are quite good, they're organized around them, and things are set for rock crawling as is. The energy sink/benefit analysis may not have favored moving ahead. But that's admittedly speculation on my part.

As Scott says, the door remains open for development. A cool application might be something along the lines of the "King of Hammers" type crawling/offroad/jumps tracks and gatherings I've seen online. It looks pretty cool and let's just say it's an antidote to the over-groomed sugar tracks that seem to have outdoor offroad in an evil grip (not ours, thankfully!)

I'm more than willing to help credible and energetic people through. I'm getting to know the new management and relationships so far are good. I'm easy to find if anyone wants to talk. But, I'm personally tapped for build energy at the present time.
Thanks Todd. Working on getting a few folks together to talk about this..
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Rock racing, turf off-road and asphalt on-road. That would be one dream team RC racing site for all to enjoy!

I've mentioned the rock style racing before. Its becoming popular like turf. I mention turf as we are going to have a huge dust problem for the on-road track. Would be nice to keep the off-road track open during on-road racing. When its dirt we will have to shut it down IMO to run a smooth on-road program where the track isn't dusty. Just my .02 cents...

Racers whats your thoughts about this?

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Not to start a fight or dismiss a potential area for future improvement, but I strongly hesitate to characterize offroad track dust drift as a huge problem for the onroad track. There is considerable separation between the two (roughly 100 ft.) and prevailing winds are north-south. It's a far cry from Peel-It, Leisure Hours, or NorCal where the offroad and onroad tracks were-are immediately adjacent. At those venues it caused a problem.

Seatac is very different from those. Sure, there will be dust...and pollen, and occasional rain, and leaves. It's an outdoor track. Grip will vary by the season, time of day, temperature, humidity, and what have you. Outdoors is where touring cars truly come alive, in my humble opinion. All of that suspension sophistication has its application in the natural environment.

I do not think there is any reason to believe offroad dust will be a major issue on the onroad side. I moved the track from the original design for a couple of reasons, prevailing wind and establishing a physical separation between the tracks was part of it. Also, the city wanted the onroad track moved closer to the street for maintenance and because they believed vandalism would be decreased by closer proximity to 136th. Given the lack of problems at the offroad track, I'd say their input was solid and we can expect similar benefits on the the onroad side.

I don't think I'm putting my head in the sand on this.

Turf on the offroad track could be pretty cool, no question.
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when the off road track gets dusty, they water it.

Todd, perhaps when you get a break one day, I can meet you at SeaTac and we could rope off or tape off the max area allowed for the crawlers. you've been mentioned on at least two different crawler facebook pages so you may get a email or message soon from a couple of clubs. I do believe the interest is picking up for SeaTac.

Turf off road would be a cool deal, everybody saves those scraps.
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Old 03-03-2016, 08:38 AM
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Huge RC new track and fresh berms look amazing. Like the Portugal track but a little larger.

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That looks nice but let's just lay down some pipes and have a program for now...
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You make a fine point, Kyle. I'm not inclined to make "perfect" an enemy of "good." There are some things that simply have to be done before we race, though.

But, winter is coming...to an end

We'll get it done and we'll get to racing on it. It's good to have dreams. Lose those and the mind goes with them.
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