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Old 12-03-2010, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Maybell
Oh great, I just set myself up for more gayness...
You've been set up for years!! But now that you have a whip... well now you're just dialed.
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Default TUB NEWS!!!!

The Fantom stuff is here...

The Tub now contains,

65c 5300mah 2s lipos

65c 5400mah 1s lipos

Duo3 8.5, 10.5 and 13.5 motors (17.5s should be here next week)

ALVIN, your sensor boards are here.
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Default Mini-Z racing (hopefully) at H30 next week

We recently purchased a bunch of RCP track and Mini-Z equipment at work for an event we'll be doing early next year. I asked Todd if I could bring the track down next week and set it up so others can check out the mini racing action and get in on it if they're interested.

The supplies should arrive on Monday so if all goes as planned we'll have it ready to go on Wednesday. If you have a Mini-Z please bring it. My goal is to keep from interfering with the larger scale racing and, at worst, give everyone something to do during their down time.

I'll have several cars with me and any of you are welcome to try them out. Per Todd the standard H30 racing fee will apply.

If you're not familiar with Mini-Z racing do a Bing & YouTube search or check out these forums. It's a lot of fun.
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Sweet! Looking forward to seeing it.
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Yaee my XII Link showed up finally...

Now.. Guys I need input.
Battery:
I'm sticking with Thunderpower 65c. Just deciding if should get the bullet version or the wire? I heard bullet version actually has additional connections inside so less efficient?? (I know bullet careful with backwards plug in).
  • TP5400-1SPR65 5400mAh 1-Cell/1S 3.7V 6C 65C 130C 32.4A 351A 702A 156 Single 18.5 x 46.5 x 92 Yes 69.99 Yes
  • TP5400-1SPR65B 5400mAh 1-Cell/1S 3.7V 6C 65C 130C 32.4A 351A 702A 147** Single 18.5 x 46.5 x 92.5 Yes 69.99 Yes


Motor:
  • Speed Passion Competition V3.0 1 Cell Motor - 13.5R (Not out/approved)
  • Epic D3 13.5 TEP1051
  • Novak


Servo:
Under .10 @ 4.8 digital be nice.

Body:
  • Parma 1/12 Exp Speed 8 - .030 Clear Body - #10125
  • Protoform Speed 12B 1610-21 (Proto makes no .30 thickness? Or they arent on site)
  • Other?

ESC:
  • Speed Passion GT V2.1 EXT98802LPFSCB - Wasnt it supposed to be dual BEC?
  • Lrp Stock Spec V2 (Not out)
If neither of the above available or dont have the dual BEC like originally stated....
  • Tekin R1 Pro
  • Novak KINETIC 1S RACING . Has this been tested (i.e. does it have a setting for stock spec advanced timing)
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Per the 2 esc above would I be allowed to use a Life pack per 6volts? If so whats available?

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Forgot tires.
GQ Racing was my first choice since I have had good luck with their micro tires.

M12White 25R - OW1 "Rear" 25 Shore - 38.4mm (1mm Offset) - C2 - Carpet
M12Tan 35R - OW1 "Rear" 35 Shore - 38.4mm(1mm Offset) C2 - Carpet
M12HBlack - 50F "Front" white wheel fits 8mm bearing - C2 - Carpet - 26mm
M12Black - 45F "Front" white wheel fits 8mm bearing - C2 - Carpet - 26mm

I dont have the write up sheet with the list of suggestions that were given. What was the shore of the front tires recommended? Any reason I should go with another brand? What brands are carried locally in stock? Any of them made in the US?
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Originally Posted by oXYnary
Yaee my XII Link showed up finally...

Now.. Guys I need input.
Battery:
I'm sticking with Thunderpower 65c. Just deciding if should get the bullet version or the wire? I heard bullet version actually has additional connections inside so less efficient?? (I know bullet careful with backwards plug in).
  • TP5400-1SPR65 5400mAh 1-Cell/1S 3.7V 6C 65C 130C 32.4A 351A 702A 156 Single 18.5 x 46.5 x 92 Yes 69.99 Yes
  • TP5400-1SPR65B 5400mAh 1-Cell/1S 3.7V 6C 65C 130C 32.4A 351A 702A 147** Single 18.5 x 46.5 x 92.5 Yes 69.99 Yes


Motor:
  • Speed Passion Competition V3.0 1 Cell Motor - 13.5R (Not out/approved)
  • Epic D3 13.5 TEP1051
  • Novak


Servo:
Under .10 @ 4.8 digital be nice.

Body:
  • Parma 1/12 Exp Speed 8 - .030 Clear Body - #10125
  • Protoform Speed 12B 1610-21 (Proto makes no .30 thickness? Or they arent on site)
  • Other?

ESC:
  • Speed Passion GT V2.1 EXT98802LPFSCB - Wasnt it supposed to be dual BEC?
  • Lrp Stock Spec V2 (Not out)
If neither of the above available or dont have the dual BEC like originally stated....
  • Tekin R1 Pro
  • Novak KINETIC 1S RACING . Has this been tested (i.e. does it have a setting for stock spec advanced timing)
.

Per the 2 esc above would I be allowed to use a Life pack per 6volts? If so whats available?
1.) Bullet plugs are way easier to deal with in the 1/12. Plus the additional "loss" is negligible.

2.) The D3, Novak Ballistic and LRP X-12 are all very capable motors. It just depends how you gear them and set the timing. It will be a while for the Speedpassion 1 cell motors from what I understand.

3.) KO Propo PDS-951 is probably the most awesome 1/12 servo. It has enough power to be used in a Touring car too, but there are cheaper options out there. Futaba S9650 and JR 3650 are both popular choices.

4.) Parma is the only one that makes the .030 thick bodies anymore. Everyone uses "Lightweight" bodies now days. Two popular ones are the CRC/Blackart R8C (more edgy, less understeer), and the Protoform AMR-12 (more stable, a little more understeer).

5.) The Speedpassion is good, it's just the size of a refrigerator. I have the LRP SXX TC spec v2 in my car right now and it's working awesome. It just doesn't have the crazy aggressive timing profiles that the Stock Spec will have, but we don't use them here at the hanger either. You'll use them if you travel to some other tracks possibly. All of the ESCs you listed are more than capable of doing what you need it to do at the Hanger though. Just pick one you like

6.)Tires.... I would honestly just stay away from the GQ stuff. There are easily obtainable tires that don't have their funky rating system. Jaco, CRC, and BSR tires are all very good. Jaco and CRC tires are stocked at RC hobbies in Woodinville, an they bring them in the ever famous Tub-o-goodies. Favorable compounds are Black fronts, and Yellow rears. Jaco Orange Rear or CRC grey-low rears are also popular. They are both the same as a Yellow, but they have a slightly different compound on the sidewall. Makes the sidewall a little more durable and gives a tick more rear grip.

Hope that helps!
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it is the speedpassion EX1 that is made for 1s and has the dual bec. I am running one in my wgt but don't tell anyone cause its not approved yet.

super smooth and great power, it takes the normal 528 software that as the no timing settings or the timing adjustable supercharger setting,

side note, there is another later version of sp software out there and is being test, I have it, but haven't used it.
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Originally Posted by skypilot
I am running one in my wgt but don't tell anyone cause its not approved yet.
gasp

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Originally Posted by skypilot
it is the speedpassion EX1 that is made for 1s and has the dual bec. I am running one in my wgt but don't tell anyone cause its not approved yet.

super smooth and great power, it takes the normal 528 software that as the no timing settings or the timing adjustable supercharger setting,

side note, there is another later version of sp software out there and is being test, I have it, but haven't used it.
Where did you get it? I dont see it on their site. (Sold out?) Anyone local have in stock? EDit. Oh you meant the Ex 2.1.
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Originally Posted by Korey Harbke
1.) Bullet plugs are way easier to deal with in the 1/12. Plus the additional "loss" is negligible.
Settled then I will get the bullet version.

2.) The D3, Novak Ballistic and LRP X-12 are all very capable motors. It just depends how you gear them and set the timing. It will be a while for the Speedpassion 1 cell motors from what I understand.
But any of them in particular that works better in 1/12th more than the other? I would choose Novak since made in US but if the D3 (China?) is better, its better.

3.) KO Propo PDS-951 is probably the most awesome 1/12 servo. It has enough power to be used in a Touring car too, but there are cheaper options out there. Futaba S9650 and JR 3650 are both popular choices.
Futuba Slow. The JR looks good.
What about this airtronics? 94819

http://www.airtronics.net/index.php/...-bb-servo.html
* Weight: 0.92 oz (26 g)
* Dimensions: 1.26 (32 mm) x 0.63 (16 mm) x 1.26 (32 mm)
* Torque
o @ 4.8v: 28 in/oz (2 cm/Kg)
o @ 6.0v: 33 in/oz (2.4 cm/Kg)
* Speed/60 degrees
o @ 4.8v: 0.08 sec
o @ 6.0v: 0.07 sec

What torque setting should I look at to power a 1/12th?

Can I use a mini servos (think hs81 size or smaller than a mini 1/12th larger than a rc18 size)? I noticed Dave Graboski was using one at one point.
http://www.rctech.net/forum/2987095-post23.html

Would it change the front end weight characteristics too much?

Cause I have the perfect servo then. Multiplex Polo Digi 4.

Length: 1.1" (28mm) 4.8V 6.0V
Width: 0.5" (13mm) Torque: 39 oz-in 49 oz-in
Height: 1.3" (33mm) Speed: 0.10 sec 0.08 sec

Its what I have in my m18 right now, but I always wanted to go to a smaller size servo in it (m18).


4.) Parma is the only one that makes the .030 thick bodies anymore. Everyone uses "Lightweight" bodies now days. Two popular ones are the CRC/Blackart R8C (more edgy, less understeer), and the Protoform AMR-12 (more stable, a little more understeer).
That Protoform AMR-12 is fugly. The Blackart looks nice. I guess I will see whom has either it or the Protoform 12b (I know not on your list but yes, I like the look of it even if untested). In stock.


5.) The Speedpassion is good, it's just the size of a refrigerator. I have the LRP SXX TC spec v2 in my car right now and it's working awesome. It just doesn't have the crazy aggressive timing profiles that the Stock Spec will have, but we don't use them here at the hanger either. You'll use them if you travel to some other tracks possibly. All of the ESCs you listed are more than capable of doing what you need it to do at the Hanger though. Just pick one you like
Hmm well if it is large.. but then I wouldn't need a receiver pack. From Skypilots experience on the LRP SXX2 Competition, and even LRP own admission. I not sure using a ESC without an option to use higher timing is cost effective if later down the line I need to purchase another esc for different tracks (like if say there is a class on the future Seatac track).

6.)Tires.... I would honestly just stay away from the GQ stuff. There are easily obtainable tires that don't have their funky rating system. Jaco, CRC, and BSR tires are all very good. Jaco and CRC tires are stocked at RC hobbies in Woodinville, an they bring them in the ever famous Tub-o-goodies. Favorable compounds are Black fronts, and Yellow rears. Jaco Orange Rear or CRC grey-low rears are also popular. They are both the same as a Yellow, but they have a slightly different compound on the sidewall. Makes the sidewall a little more durable and gives a tick more rear grip.
Yea part of my reason for testing is to see their ability to not chunk as I had a good experience with them in 1/18th in this ability.

I guess I will again see whom has what in stock locally to get running sooner than later.. Gray Low sounds good especially since CRC made in US?

Hope that helps!
Thanks.


Edit: The Car comes with a 96tooth spur. What tooth spur and pinions are recommended to start say with the Novak and standard rear tire size.

Also I remember a mention of AE cars wanting to get shims to extend their width of rear. Looks like mine is 169 mm. Should I get said shims?

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I'm assembling my TC6 so I can come race on Wed and I just broke a Diff T-Nut (PN: 31166). Remote Control Hobbies doesn't have any in stock and I may not be able to get one shipped to me in time. Any chance any of you have one that you could loan me until my replacement gets here? It's the same part on the TC5. I'd really appreciate it.

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Originally Posted by mdowney
I'm assembling my TC6 so I can come race on Wed and I just broke a Diff T-Nut (PN: 31166). Remote Control Hobbies doesn't have any in stock and I may not be able to get one shipped to me in time. Any chance any of you have one that you could loan me until my replacement gets here? It's the same part on the TC5. I'd really appreciate it.

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All you need is part number 6575. It's $2.99 and we have it at the shop.
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All you need is part number 6575. It's $2.99 and we have it at the shop.
Great! I called Dave and he said you didn't have it. Didn't know they sold it separately. I'll come down and pick one up. Thanks Canyon!
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I accidentally ordered a Protoform LTC-R regular weight body, first $20 at the Hanger on Wednesday takes it. Or you can claim it now!
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