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Old 11-17-2010, 11:51 AM
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Are you kidding me Bill? My bike had a banana seat and a reflector. Crazy.
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Are you kidding me Bill? My bike had a banana seat and a reflector. Crazy.
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Originally Posted by skypilot
Its all bull crap.
"Bull Crap", "Donkey Dung", "Endangered Feces"........When Seated on "the Growler", is your weight transfer "Static" or "Dynamic"?



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Originally Posted by mkdut
Having the weight balanced is going to be more important than being just over the minimum weight. If the car is too unbalanced you could acutally go slower.
operative word, "too" unblanced.
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Wow, crabby?
yes, and I'm having heat flashes to.

Originally Posted by Victor Vector
As Colin Chapman of Lotus fame stated "First to go fast, add lightness"

This is always true. It will require nimbler suspension and finer tuning of set up. Heavy cars lumber around very nicely and give the impression of a good set up. That's how I used to run my cars when I knew less about suspension function. Left and right balance is very important though, as Brian said, relation to weight transfer in acceleration and braking for starters, let alone the unharmonious moment vector sh*t !!

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which model of Lotus ran foam tires on carpet??? just saying.

at the nora warm up race we went to my wgt was grossly underweight. but yet brain managed to lap me serveral times. he was faster on the straight faster in the corners and had better accelleration. but yet, thats not possible because he was heavier then I was. Like I said, its all bull crap.

one of the last times Dutemple and I raced sedan, (sort of) was Trans am at the sizzler i was over 60 grams over weight and yet still managed to win the race. mikes car was faster (more top speed) but I had more corner speed.
go figure.

depending on layout, a little off balance isn't a bad thing. ever wonder why you gotta dail in more left camber the right camber? yea weight balance.

but yet this is not to say your car needs to be a brick, all I'm saying is just because your car is at a perfect min weight, doesn't mean its going to be faster then one over weight.

sorry for the rant, but the fact that bristol didn't get voted off tells me the show isn't about dancing. damn it, damn it all to hell. now i gotta find a new favorite show.
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Originally Posted by waswadener
OK. Thank you. Do you mean balanced left to right, front to rear or both?

Left to right, I'm about 735 grams on the left wheels and 725 grams on the right wheels; just 10 grams difference between left and right. I could add a little lead to the right or trim a little weight from the left (e.g. shorten the motor-esc wires) to get it perfectly 50:50. Thoughts?

Front to rear: I'm at 733 grams on the front and 727 grams on the rear, or 50.2:49.8 weight distribution. In Stock Touring is 50:50 the best ratio or should there be more weight on the front or rear?

Any / all insights are welcome and appreciated.
From what I can see on your numbers....your car is damn near perfect; I wouldn't sweat it at all. Your left/right balance is good; 10 grams is not an issue. If anyone of us can feel that 'balance-difference' on the track (especially w/a sedan), speak up. 'Cause I doubt it . Your front to rear weight distribution is good. But depending on your driving style, that (frt/rear weight distribution) can be tailored to suit (MORE steering/MORE rear grip). But either way, both of those options can be achieved with a matter of DROOP as well. Me myself, I like a heavier ass end, lol.

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Originally Posted by skypilot
yes, and I'm having heat flashes to.
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Originally Posted by skypilot
sorry for the rant, but the fact that bristol didn't get voted off tells me the show isn't about dancing. damn it, damn it all to hell. now i gotta find a new favorite show.
At least you don't need a new TV.

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Originally Posted by JayBee
Me myself, I like a heavier ass end, lol.
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Originally Posted by jubilee
You do realize your probably the only person on this tread that knew what I was talking about...
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Originally Posted by skypilot
You do realize your probably the only person on this tread that knew what I was talking about...
Yeah.
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Originally Posted by skypilot
You do realize your probably the only person on this tread that knew what I was talking about...
Unless your wife's name is JUDY.
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OK. Thank you for your insights, everybody. I think I'll stop fiddling with the car's weight and just drive and drive it on the 24th. Hopefully, the lower weight and better distribution will help me but driving practice will help more than anything.

Thank you again.

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Originally Posted by THE WIGGLER
Unless your wife's name is JUDY.
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Protoform Speed 12 or CRC R8C? *Didn't realize I had both NIP...might paint a new shell.*
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Originally Posted by jubilee
Protoform Speed 12 or CRC R8C? *Didn't realize I had both NIP...might paint a new shell.*
Do you want a little more stable car or more steering? The CRC body gives a little more steering and Im starting to think the car goes a little faster down the straight with it as well...
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