344LikesSeattle RC Racers/Hangar 30
11-09-2010, 02:45 PM
#4997
I haven't seen anyone running novice, so I think he'll have to be in scale spec. I don't think anyone will complain if his car is somehow better than other peoples' since he hasn't touched an RC car in about 15 years, I don't really think he's going to abuse any unfair advantages.
11-09-2010, 02:45 PM
#4998
Not 100% true there... The CC agreed it would be alright to allow non approved speed controls by a case by case situation. I know you will want a 10 page document on how that process happens but its simple. Is it perfect no, but we feel its the thing to do. Not every one will agree with it but guess what its what CC decided to do.
The "spirit of the rule" is to allow ESC's that are old/outdated enough that the manufacturer did not bother to submit them.I'm not trying to sell a particular product, Drew, but I will submit this: the SXX v.2 is actually a great speedo for all of our pan car racing at Hangar 30. It has a Sportsman mode for Stock. If and when we add a second 1/12th class it will be Modified. The SXX v.2 would be great for that. And, as you note, it has the single plug convenience you seek.
end of story. move on, now about those heads up starts.....
11-09-2010, 02:48 PM
#4999
thanks, you just saved me $30 bucks ! 
btw, at other clubs I've heard this statement and it always makes my blood boil : "They aren't checking it, so don't worry about "IT" " , this is in regards to wing height , weight, etc. etc..". Personally I think the honor system has to take place with respect to the rules AS WRITTEN rather than just what is being checked on a given day AND the rules need to be readily available and clearly written without loop holes ( sadly , but are fair game to everyone to exploit ).
btw, at other clubs I've heard this statement and it always makes my blood boil : "They aren't checking it, so don't worry about "IT" " , this is in regards to wing height , weight, etc. etc..". Personally I think the honor system has to take place with respect to the rules AS WRITTEN rather than just what is being checked on a given day AND the rules need to be readily available and clearly written without loop holes ( sadly , but are fair game to everyone to exploit ).
11-09-2010, 02:49 PM
#5001
the issue is, not all the esc's being used have a no timing value
11-09-2010, 02:50 PM
#5002
I haven't seen anyone running novice, so I think he'll have to be in scale spec. I don't think anyone will complain if his car is somehow better than other peoples' since he hasn't touched an RC car in about 15 years, I don't really think he's going to abuse any unfair advantages.
11-09-2010, 02:59 PM
#5003
For those of you who have responded to my question, Thanks!!
Ritchie and club members, I saw your post on the other thread but I am going to post here instead of there to keep the discussion more local. My next question is, who is it that is making Peter feel like he is under attack? Why? We are a club who uses ROAR for insurance reasons but we are not doing the other ROAR stuff as vigorously.
Peter could beat most of us if we made him use a second servo and a wiper speed resister.
I am not sure that I care for some of the snide remarks that come out of these message boards. If someone needs answers or clarification on issues then they should ask questions instead of this method.
Should I just skip Wednesday's race and stay home? Just got a link Serpent and a fresh brick lipo, would be a shame to think that watching TV is the better choice.
Steve
Ritchie and club members, I saw your post on the other thread but I am going to post here instead of there to keep the discussion more local. My next question is, who is it that is making Peter feel like he is under attack? Why? We are a club who uses ROAR for insurance reasons but we are not doing the other ROAR stuff as vigorously.
Peter could beat most of us if we made him use a second servo and a wiper speed resister.
I am not sure that I care for some of the snide remarks that come out of these message boards. If someone needs answers or clarification on issues then they should ask questions instead of this method.Should I just skip Wednesday's race and stay home? Just got a link Serpent and a fresh brick lipo, would be a shame to think that watching TV is the better choice.
Steve
Regardless...bring that 1/12 car out tomorrow night. TV is for suckers!
--Bill
11-09-2010, 03:04 PM
#5004
i know what you mean and if you are going to race a "no timing " class i would figure people would be smart enough to not use one of those esc's.
but even if it is not on the list and it has a profile that has no timing you should be good, list or no list. just have proof that it has a profile with no timing.
but even if it is not on the list and it has a profile that has no timing you should be good, list or no list. just have proof that it has a profile with no timing.
(from far away...)
11-09-2010, 03:24 PM
#5006
I believe Roar states a max size of the rotor at 12.6mm, the 1s rotors are smaller, usually around 12.0 for sp and 12.3 for lrp, which btw is wierd cause the sp motors come with a 12.3. so you should be good to go. if anyone has a sp motor and would like to test with the 12.0 rotor, ask, I have one not being used.
8.8.3 Motor Manufacturers are offering optional or tuning rotors for brushless motors.
Many of these rotors may not be approved products for use in ROAR sanctioned
events. The only rotors ROAR Approved for any BL motor, are the one(s) submitted
during the original motor approval process. Importers/Manufacturers may include
any Option/Tuning Rotors for inspection and listing, when motor samples are
submitted, or they can submit at a later date for inclusion.
8.8.3.1 For our Affiliate Importers/Manufacturers who have developed Option/Tuning
Rotors and wish to add them to stock/super Stock class motors, should contact
ROAR and the Motor Lab immediately to have these items considered for approval.
The Motor Lab will require 3 rotors and a list of the winds in which they are being
offered. Each rotor must include the appropriate part number of the tuning and original
rotor.
8.8.3.2 For our Members using Tuning Rotors be advised, ROAR Technical Inspection
Team will treat Rotor Inspection as a serious part of race inspection at the nationals
and all of the technical data from the original Motor/Rotor Submissions is cataloged.
The Inspection Team has and will continue to deny the use of non-approved "option"
rotors at ROAR Nationals because they have not been submitted for inspection by the
Manufacturer.
Many of these rotors may not be approved products for use in ROAR sanctioned
events. The only rotors ROAR Approved for any BL motor, are the one(s) submitted
during the original motor approval process. Importers/Manufacturers may include
any Option/Tuning Rotors for inspection and listing, when motor samples are
submitted, or they can submit at a later date for inclusion.
8.8.3.1 For our Affiliate Importers/Manufacturers who have developed Option/Tuning
Rotors and wish to add them to stock/super Stock class motors, should contact
ROAR and the Motor Lab immediately to have these items considered for approval.
The Motor Lab will require 3 rotors and a list of the winds in which they are being
offered. Each rotor must include the appropriate part number of the tuning and original
rotor.
8.8.3.2 For our Members using Tuning Rotors be advised, ROAR Technical Inspection
Team will treat Rotor Inspection as a serious part of race inspection at the nationals
and all of the technical data from the original Motor/Rotor Submissions is cataloged.
The Inspection Team has and will continue to deny the use of non-approved "option"
rotors at ROAR Nationals because they have not been submitted for inspection by the
Manufacturer.
11-09-2010, 03:26 PM
#5007
I believe Roar states a max size of the rotor at 12.6mm, the 1s rotors are smaller, usually around 12.0 for sp and 12.3 for lrp, which btw is wierd cause the sp motors come with a 12.3. so you should be good to go. if anyone has a sp motor and would like to test with the 12.0 rotor, ask, I have one not being used.
There is more to just a maximum rotor size... They check the size of the shaft the rotor magnet is glued to as well if memory serves me right. You can have a under sized rotor but it might be thicker and has a smaller motor shaft shank... As well I think the rotor length is checked...
11-09-2010, 03:30 PM
#5008
If the next club race was a ROAR nationals and you had to go through tech would it pass? If so its legal if not its not. Simple.
I could write from memory what ROAR checks but if I get anything wrong its to the firing line for me. So if Wes (who now is part of ROAR RMT) wouldn't mind posting the process of checking a motor that would be great.
I could write from memory what ROAR checks but if I get anything wrong its to the firing line for me. So if Wes (who now is part of ROAR RMT) wouldn't mind posting the process of checking a motor that would be great.
Mike
11-09-2010, 03:31 PM
#5009
Don't ask me 'bout my Roll out! Roll out! Roll out! Roll out!
I got my twin pink fronts, shaved back
Me and my homies, so drop that
We rollin on 45's, with the top latched
So much speed, you can't stop that
Twin pink fronts, shaved back
Me and my homies, so drop that
We rollin on 45's, with the top latched
So much speed, you can't stop that
Now where'd you get that platinum speedo with them diamonds in it?
Where'd you get that matchin Black Art shell with them windows tinted?
Who them girls you be with when you be ridin through?
Man I ain't got nothin to prove, I paid my dues
Breakin the rules, I shake fools while I'm takin a cruise.
Tell me what's your boost level man, how do you rip so good?
You's a superstar boy, why you still up in H30?
What in the world is in that Hudy BAG, what you got in that BAG?
A couple a cans a motor cleaner, you did a good ass job of just eyein me, spyin me
Roll out! Roll out! Roll out! Roll out!
Man, that car don't come out until next year, where in the @#$% did you get it?
That's a thousand bucks GONE, where in the @#$% did you spend it?
You must have eyes on your back, 'cause you got boost to the ceiling
And the bigger the voodoo, the bigger the peelin
The better I'm peelin, the more that I'm chillin
Winnin, killin spec runnin fools and lovin the feelin
Now who's that runnin black box @#$% all up on the track?
Gettin goosebumps when it passes, your ass'l get smacked
What in the world is in that ROOM, what you got in that ROOM?
A couple a laptops, a couple xboxes, a couple coolers, a couple spare chassis
Now it's time to choose
Don't ask me 'bout my Roll out! Roll out! Roll out! Roll out!
I got my twin pink fronts, shaved back
Me and my homies, so drop that
We rollin on 45's, with the top latched
So much speed, you can't stop that
Twin pink fronts, shaved back
Me and my homies, so drop that
We rollin on 45's, with the top latched
So much speed, you can't stop that
Now where'd you get that platinum speedo with them diamonds in it?
Where'd you get that matchin Black Art shell with them windows tinted?
Who them girls you be with when you be ridin through?
Man I ain't got nothin to prove, I paid my dues
Breakin the rules, I shake fools while I'm takin a cruise.
Tell me what's your boost level man, how do you rip so good?
You's a superstar boy, why you still up in H30?
What in the world is in that Hudy BAG, what you got in that BAG?
A couple a cans a motor cleaner, you did a good ass job of just eyein me, spyin me
Roll out! Roll out! Roll out! Roll out!
Man, that car don't come out until next year, where in the @#$% did you get it?
That's a thousand bucks GONE, where in the @#$% did you spend it?
You must have eyes on your back, 'cause you got boost to the ceiling
And the bigger the voodoo, the bigger the peelin
The better I'm peelin, the more that I'm chillin
Winnin, killin spec runnin fools and lovin the feelin
Now who's that runnin black box @#$% all up on the track?
Gettin goosebumps when it passes, your ass'l get smacked
What in the world is in that ROOM, what you got in that ROOM?
A couple a laptops, a couple xboxes, a couple coolers, a couple spare chassis
Now it's time to choose
Don't ask me 'bout my Roll out! Roll out! Roll out! Roll out!
