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Old 09-19-2006, 05:47 AM   #1051
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Does anybody know what car Surikarn was running at the worlds, or have any pics of his car?
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Old 09-19-2006, 03:21 PM   #1052
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Not much has been said (that I can see) on the controlled fuel used at this championships. As a competitor here and at least 6 other world champs, I have to say that it was a huge success. It seemed to do what it was designed for, by bringing the competititors closer together in engine performance. I did not see any one engine manufacturer having a huge advantage over any other. What do you all think?
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I guess the fuel decision was okay, but why should everything be equal. If your company makes a better fuel, or engine, or car, you should be able to use it. As long as it is within the rules. If this was all about just driving ability then maybe they should have a spec car, engine, fuel, and tires. Losing drive innovation, if your product only has to be just as good as the next, then it will dumb down our toys. I like the fact that there are winners and losers and equipment can help in an advantage. If your product is not good enough to win, than go back to the drawing board and come back with a better product.
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Old 09-19-2006, 04:03 PM   #1054
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I guess the fuel decision was okay, but why should everything be equal. If your company makes a better fuel, or engine, or car, you should be able to use it. As long as it is within the rules. If this was all about just driving ability then maybe they should have a spec car, engine, fuel, and tires. Losing drive innovation, if your product only has to be just as good as the next, then it will dumb down our toys. I like the fact that there are winners and losers and equipment can help in an advantage. If your product is not good enough to win, than go back to the drawing board and come back with a better product.
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Old 09-19-2006, 04:04 PM   #1055
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I guess the fuel decision was okay, but why should everything be equal. If your company makes a better fuel, or engine, or car, you should be able to use it. As long as it is within the rules. If this was all about just driving ability then maybe they should have a spec car, engine, fuel, and tires. Losing drive innovation, if your product only has to be just as good as the next, then it will dumb down our toys. I like the fact that there are winners and losers and equipment can help in an advantage. If your product is not good enough to win, than go back to the drawing board and come back with a better product.
I absolutely agree.
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Old 09-19-2006, 04:19 PM   #1056
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I absolutely agree.
I think you should not regulate any product. Why should the fuel sponsors loose there advertisement. Next they will make everyone run the same car or the same engine. If I have a fuel sponsor, why should I not run it. Just my opinion. Keeping in mind that the products are legal.
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Old 09-19-2006, 04:25 PM   #1057
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Right, after all isn't the 16% nitro limit supposed to be the regulator.
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Old 09-19-2006, 04:31 PM   #1058
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I personally think that a control fuel is a good thing. Reason being it doesnt give people a false perception that one engine is faster than another. After all world chamionships are about sales, well that is how manufacturers see it anyway. Now if one manufacturer decides to run a far % less oil to sacrifice some reliability for speed so that there engine is quicker than i think that is decieveing, probably good marketing but it is decieveing. With a controlled fuel you actually get to see whos engine has the power and whos doesnt. Now as a mate of mine posted a page or two back Josh Cyrul's orion consistantly had 3-4 kph over the rest of the field, so all the hype and statements that have been made about this engine have been backed up i believe, but the only reason this a justified statement is because everyone ra the same fuel.

Just to go back to the comment made about that controlled fuel was just ok. You make a good point but if it wasnt a controlled fuel how would anyone be able to make an informed decision about which motor to buy as there are to many variables involved. And the other thing is how would an engine manufacturer know wether it was the engine that needed more development or just need another fuel supplier?

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Right, after all isn't the 16% nitro limit supposed to be the regulator.
Yes you are right the 16% is the regulator but it is also the oil content that makes a big difference.
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Controlled fuel was brought into the IFMAR rules for one reason, to stop cheating by using illegal additives in fuel that mask the nitro percentage. There are a myriad of products out there you can add to the fuel that will mask the specific gravity of the fuel and basically allow you to defeat the specific gravity testing guages and use whatever nitro percentage you want.

Other than having a full time spectro analysier at the track to check for these additives at what would be a prohibitive cost, controlled fuel was the way to go.

Cars were checked coming into the controlled fuel area that tanks and lines were empty and they were then given thier fuel bottles / guns and allotment of fuel for that heat. If they needed extra fuel during the finals there was a fuel official in pitlane handing out extra fuel.

All of the manufacturers I spoke to were very happy with the controlled fuel used (Runnertime Top 16%) as well as with the decision IFMAR has taken to use it. It is one less thing they have to transport around the world and it levels up the playing field for everyone.

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How much longer till the final results are posted?
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How much longer till the final results are posted?
The final results were posted immeadiately after the protest time had finished on Sunday. You can view them here http://www.200mmifmarworlds.com/Default.aspx?tabid=329

Just scroll to the bottom of the page and select Final Placings
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BigTez was there... thought there would be too much noise and fumes for you

Was a great race, was a shame Dario didn't have a better run for Team Magic

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I was one of the suckers that volunteered to help out at this event even though the smell and noise was unbearable not one of the bludger members in the stands.
Bring on the 5th worlds more noisy smelly dirty cars and not enough volunteers.........can't wait.

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after thinking about it ya its a good thing in real cars they do the tire thing and i think in f1 they do the fuel thing
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