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Old 09-27-2011, 06:34 AM   #11641
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Not really an option due to work commitments... only option would be a sunday and they race every sunday from what i am told.
Alternate weekends with the 5th scale and Friday Nights, so one weekend you have Fridays Electric and Nitro GT, and 5th scale usually on a Sat or Sun, then on the next weekend will be an IC 8th and 200mm and Gas Touring meeting.

And it's a mix of Sat/Sun on the IC Nitro weekends, Sundays in winter from 9am, Saturdays in summer from 4pm till late under lights away from the Qld heat.

We just had our last Sunday day meet for the year (where I the team magic traitor debuted my new MTX5 sheep), so as of October the 8th we are running Saturday again for a few more fortnights till end of year.

(Am I still a sheep if I'm the first one in Qld to actually own and run one? )
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Old 09-29-2011, 12:12 AM   #11642
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Here's the next generation of my speed calc setup for G4 502x series.

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Will restyle it another time. Please feel free to give feedback for errors or ideas.
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Alternate weekends with the 5th scale and Friday Nights, so one weekend you have Fridays Electric and Nitro GT, and 5th scale usually on a Sat or Sun, then on the next weekend will be an IC 8th and 200mm and Gas Touring meeting.

And it's a mix of Sat/Sun on the IC Nitro weekends, Sundays in winter from 9am, Saturdays in summer from 4pm till late under lights away from the Qld heat.

We just had our last Sunday day meet for the year (where I the team magic traitor debuted my new MTX5 sheep), so as of October the 8th we are running Saturday again for a few more fortnights till end of year.

(Am I still a sheep if I'm the first one in Qld to actually own and run one? )
No i would think that makes you a trend setter, watch the sheep follow though!
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Old 10-13-2011, 02:09 AM   #11644
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If I remember correctly the order went like this: Trinity Reflex (not really a G4 but it shared alot of parts), G4C, G4E, RD Logics Mongoose, G4S, G4+, G4RS, G4+ EVO, G4RS '09.

As for hop up parts I would look at getting 504013 (pulley set), 504017 (rear gear box set), K14122-9 (30t front pulley) and K14133 (UFO2 clutch set). Pinions will be dependent on motor and track size. These parts will get the internal gear ratio closer to those of the more current cars. They really help with punch and top end. Clutch is great.

There are tons of KFactory hop up parts out there as well.
Love to see a picture of these parts on an 08..
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PS: the one thing that is advisable to change is to mount a small micro receiver on top of the transponder plate, use a AMD transpoder under it, then install a good Lipo/Life that fits where the radio gear would normally fit. The main problem with a TM is the battery, that's the primary cause of failing to finish or start.
I did exactly that to my G4 years ago but gave up on the project because of the other so called "BS" against it as you stated. I'm gonna have to revisit that build.

Does anyone know if there is a front spool that would fit the G4?
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Old 10-15-2011, 07:31 AM   #11646
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Anyone know if team magic will be bringing out a new car anytime soon?
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The G4 and G4S are almost the same car. Very small changes. Basically more alloy parts.
G4 and G4S were not the same. G4S had a different chassis and top plate than the G4C/E/ RD Logic Mongoose. It had a single pivot steering mechanism and the receiver battery mounted on the side by the pipe with the receiver mounted where the battery use to be in front of the engine.


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The silly thing about the G4 is I could spend hundreds of dollars buying K-Factory upgrades for the G4 (quick change bulkheads, ED transmission, Flying wing suspension, Centax style clutch, etc) or I can buy the G4JS and pay less than half that and be done with it.
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I did exactly that to my G4 years ago but gave up on the project because of the other so called "BS" against it as you stated. I'm gonna have to revisit that build.

Does anyone know if there is a front spool that would fit the G4?
Yes, the G4+ LE has a Dual one way and spool lockable with a pin, the G4+ EVO has the lightweight spool, so u can get them and I have a oneway only as well.

Ive always run them because of the weight of a diff.

G4JR versus G4+ EVO
The JR has wood screws, old version of the G4 shocks, plastic top bulkhead supports and is not designed to be raced week in week out. It's a use of all the original plastic G4 components on a G4rs08 chassis plate.

Ideally a new G4JR and a second hand WC edition G4RS08 would make a good entry point. You do get a lot of value with the G4+ Evo, Kfactory components, specially the RED bearings, lightweight spool, alloy bulkheads

With the whispers of a new car, it will be very interesting to see what level of car they produce for starters. If it's a plastic only like the RS09, then it will fail for racers compared to the Capricorn, V10, MTX5, Xray.. I really hope they start with a full Spec KFactory based G4+RS12-LE and I'll be first in line to buy one. If I have to wait for years for KFactory, I wont be interested.
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Yes, the G4+ LE has a Dual one way and spool lockable with a pin, the G4+ EVO has the lightweight spool, so u can get them and I have a oneway only as well.

Ive always run them because of the weight of a diff.

G4JR versus G4+ EVO
The JR has wood screws, old version of the G4 shocks, plastic top bulkhead supports and is not designed to be raced week in week out. It's a use of all the original plastic G4 components on a G4rs08 chassis plate.

Ideally a new G4JR and a second hand WC edition G4RS08 would make a good entry point. You do get a lot of value with the G4+ Evo, Kfactory components, specially the RED bearings, lightweight spool, alloy bulkheads

With the whispers of a new car, it will be very interesting to see what level of car they produce for starters. If it's a plastic only like the RS09, then it will fail for racers compared to the Capricorn, V10, MTX5, Xray.. I really hope they start with a full Spec KFactory based G4+RS12-LE and I'll be first in line to buy one. If I have to wait for years for KFactory, I wont be interested.
Cars need to have red bulkheads to be seriously competitive.

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Yes, the G4+ LE has a Dual one way and spool lockable with a pin, the G4+ EVO has the lightweight spool, so u can get them and I have a oneway only as well.

Ive always run them because of the weight of a diff.

G4JR versus G4+ EVO
The JR has wood screws, old version of the G4 shocks, plastic top bulkhead supports and is not designed to be raced week in week out. It's a use of all the original plastic G4 components on a G4rs08 chassis plate.

Ideally a new G4JR and a second hand WC edition G4RS08 would make a good entry point. You do get a lot of value with the G4+ Evo, Kfactory components, specially the RED bearings, lightweight spool, alloy bulkheads

With the whispers of a new car, it will be very interesting to see what level of car they produce for starters. If it's a plastic only like the RS09, then it will fail for racers compared to the Capricorn, V10, MTX5, Xray.. I really hope they start with a full Spec KFactory based G4+RS12-LE and I'll be first in line to buy one. If I have to wait for years for KFactory, I wont be interested.
Got a link for that spool? Can't seem to be able to find it at Wolf Hobbies.
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Got a link for that spool? Can't seem to be able to find it at Wolf Hobbies.
Dual Spool / Oneway G4+
http://www.rcmanufactory.com/prodshow.php?id=965

The Oney way Lightweight
K14210 G4 Lightweight Front Solid Axle
http://www.kfactoryracing.com/produc...4210&pageNum=1

K1477
http://www.kfactoryracing.com/produc...1477&pageNum=1

There are a few to choose from.
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Cars need to have red bulkheads to be seriously competitive.

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My new one will be black or orange so I hope the magic handling isn't in the red bulkheads.
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Cars need to have red bulkheads to be seriously competitive.

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you reckon ?
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Dual Spool / Oneway G4+
http://www.rcmanufactory.com/prodshow.php?id=965

The Oney way Lightweight
K14210 G4 Lightweight Front Solid Axle
http://www.kfactoryracing.com/produc...4210&pageNum=1

K1477
http://www.kfactoryracing.com/produc...1477&pageNum=1

There are a few to choose from.
Thanks.

Wolf has the K1477 in both blue and titanium. I'll order it from there.

http://www.wolfhobbies.com/product.c...3&product=6605
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Some background to our cause..

Luke my younger son was born with a skin blistering disorder, he has a genetic mutation (natural evolution) of keratin protein that binds the Epidermal layers of skin to the dermis beneath. This causes blisters and as a father I struggled to find an interest that Luke could commit to, learn the value of experience, patience, commitment and in the end learn to appreciate his own achievements and be proud of them.

For me, over thirty years ago I was building RC gliders from Balsa wood and PVA glue, in the days before Super Glue. It would take me three months to build the wings and 1 day destroy it. I myself used that experience to teach me patience and it was an experience I never forgot.

As my sons grew up mum was buying radio toys and each time I was excited to get my hands on a radio and servos I realised they were crappy surface mounted motors and I couldnt use them to make our own models. We would buy flat packs of balsa and make our own boats to play in the pool, we would also buy "my favourite" Aeroflyte balsa models and build them, my favourite was a glider that soared 200m got lift from a hand launch in the park.

As they grew up and were 10 years old we bought a delta wing soarer and 4 channel Air radio, we spent so much time lovingly building it and went out to fly it and in our first outing I set it down on the cliff went to get it and it was gone. I was so upset I swore never again to fly

We then went out to buy an RC buggy and bought an inferno buggy, we still have it today and still enjoy it in the streets

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One day we were looking on Google and saw an an OnRoad track and near it was what we thought was an offroad track less than 30 minutes from our home. Naturally, the first thing we did to our Inferno was buy Proline Road Rage, we didnt like getting our model dirty and slamming it off the jumps.

We arrived at the on road track to find the offroad track was actually a BMX track, but what really caught my interest was a 1:5 scale model, immaculately kept and there was a father and son enjoying them. Little did I know it was the club's president at the time Mr Trevor Kerr and the Australian 1:8 champion Michael Kerr.Needless to say, I had the biggest smile on my face.

The track was amazing, it was like a professional stadium with shelters, truing areas, race control, awesome pit lane, driver stand and without doubt one of the best RC venues in the southern hemisphere.

Next to the track was an amazing RC chop called Trackside RC, they had cars I had never seen before, Carbon fibre, alloys, amazing tools and I couldnt understand why I had never seen these before.

Within the week I walked into TrackSideRC and said what have you got for me I can afford. He pulled out a LeMans G4 with starter AM radio and for $400 I was ready to run. We went out to our first meeting and for all those who forget how nervous things are, try and remember, because we had all sorts of problems yet managed to sort them out and get back on track

It wasnt long before I found RC tech and all you folk and I had set my eyes on a G4+ LE as my own model, which I still have in immaculate condition. From there a few months later we entered the State champs and what an experience it was. All my arms were too tight, the engine wasnt run in, I had no idea about truing tyres and what was amazing for us was the support from all the other drivers who came to help us.

While we were 2nd to last we managed to get break the 20s laptime and that made me so happy, I remember clearly jumping with joy when telling Jeff Hamon we broke 20 seconds and next to him was Peter Jovanovic the 200mm champion (17s lap times) looking really strange at us. Guy was cold and Jeff leant him a Novarossi jumper to wear and my son Guy was so proud, as was Jeff and I for our milestone of an achievement.

Our race craft developed and we attended the Nationals later that year and met a good friend SPRacer, we shared information and helped each other he looked over our car and while we seemed to do everything right, everything usually goes wrong, RC can be cruel.

We visited interstate events and I love the BIG races in the AARCMCC format. NSW was a track we really enjoyed but the boys were still young and while Guy was performing well midfield he rushed a hi speed corner and the blue car was airborne and yet another poor finish but great experience.


I forgot to mention that as not to make my sons compete, Luke drove an E4 EP and Guy was the IC driver. I became very frustrated with the EP format and decided last year that Luke would join the IC class. Guy had lost faith in the team magic, the negativity towards it didnt help matters and as much as I tried to explain that "WE" needed to improve our race craft the damage was done so last year he chose to switch to Velox and Luke took over the G4.

Luke's smooth driving style lends itself very well to the G4, he is a patient person who will completely pull down his car and clean every bearing and rebuild it himself. Sure I need to help with the setup but he has shown a maturity for RC that will help him in life.

He's totally comfortable with the G4, he drove his first titles meeting earlier this year at Victoria and his smooth and courteous driving style was noticed by many. From the pit lane it's a pleasure to watch even if his times are in the top ten it doesnt matter to me, it makes me proud.

He made his first bump and then one error pushing a little harder and a close friend put his Capricorn straight into the side of the G4 pushing the servo through the fuel tank.. Race over.

At the last Qld Titles, Luke drove solidly, but was underpowered for some reason, later I found that his collette was loose and while the car wasnt performing he was driving so well he finished the meeting middle order and completed it in the semis. Guy made it to the A-Main and for the first time drove against some of the best in the country and finished in 6th place with a very rich bottom end. It was his best finish and the V10 had pulled the pin out of the CV and we both felt that "this time luck came our way!"

So, this is not boasting about our achievements as they arent what you would call outstanding, but for us the experience is, we enjoy racing with our friends, we love our models, we appreciate the engineering and we dont like to bag different manufacturers.

Most all RC race spec cars are amazing pieces of engineering, they perform unbelievably sometimes and we accept that the sport operates at a very high level and we all have good and bad days.

In two days we will be attending the Australian national championships with a very high level of racers from around the country. We aim to finish and enjoy our racing in amongst the best in the country on a great track

In no specific order, special thanks to Jeff Hamon, Tim and Gary Westwood, Peter Jovanovic Snr and the boys, Chris and Jason Dorn, Luis Sola, Derrick Miller, Adam Bailey, Jeremy Simons, Nick Jameison, Greg Charleton, Daniel Morris, Lars Karlsson, Patto, Patrick & Joel Casey and last but not least Mr Trevor Kerr.

It's a friendly reminder that we appreciate your support and great times in the pits and garages over the years, it's not about the cars, it's really about the special people we meet!

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I used a LRP 1450 LiPo that fit where the old Receiver tray lived with some foam dampening under the battery.

I fed the balanced charging port out from where the old power connector mounted.

I made a carbon plate to fit under the old batter hole to act as a mount point for power connector.

Using Savox low profile I placed the regulator behind the steering servo.
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