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Old 03-02-2009, 06:02 PM   #10606
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if your only running 1 mm of caster now, then id try 1mm toe out (each wheel) and more rear droop first.
more droop = smaller number on the droop blocks?

is it always setup to have the rear less droop than the front? meaning the front having lower number than the rear on the droop blocks.
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Old 03-02-2009, 07:12 PM   #10607
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price is $330 shipped for a BRAND NEW NEVER RAN G4RS, THATS $70 off retail!! i built it last fall and never ran it, I just lost my job so it has to go, hit me up if you're interested!
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Old 03-02-2009, 08:17 PM   #10608
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more droop = smaller number on the droop blocks?

is it always setup to have the rear less droop than the front? meaning the front having lower number than the rear on the droop blocks.
more droop = lesser number yes on the blocks. more rear droop will give a little more steering, but too much can upset the rear off power. droop is used to fine tune your setup. so its not a certain number on the blocks that will make it right, sometimes it takes a small adjustment while racing to ge the balance your looking for. can be equal front to rear, but generally i wouldnt use more rear droop than the front. but dont rule out not doing it, just make te adjustments while at the track to feel how it changes your cars feel.
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Old 03-03-2009, 03:09 AM   #10609
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man, I really like the engine mounted with the heatsink leaning forward.

Just like Usain Bolt sprinting towards the finish line
cool stuff man !!
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Old 03-03-2009, 03:48 AM   #10610
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I think the idea of the engine leaning forward could lead into another dimension of troubles : glow plug installment become less precise.

Consider the situation if the glow plug is dropped, and the mechanic try to scoop it and quickly try to put it back. The threads alignment might not aligned properly due to the engine head is not perfectly vertical.... As the result, the turbo head plate become damaged, and the racer get into DNF due to engine trouble.

That's why TM will never be Xray or Mugen or Kyosho....... TM cars often get into DNF situation.
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Old 03-03-2009, 04:27 AM   #10611
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I think the idea of the engine leaning forward could lead into another dimension of troubles : glow plug installment become less precise.

Consider the situation if the glow plug is dropped, and the mechanic try to scoop it and quickly try to put it back. The threads alignment might not aligned properly due to the engine head is not perfectly vertical.... As the result, the turbo head plate become damaged, and the racer get into DNF due to engine trouble.

That's why TM will never be Xray or Mugen or Kyosho....... TM cars often get into DNF situation.
this is a concept car, many ideas here that they have illustrated , often change upon release. many manufacturers are in this stage of a new car, and im sure they will all hit the market at similar times, making the choice of a new car plentyfull. i just hope the plastic arms are much stronger cause thats the only thing that let it down previously. i was overall happy with the rest of the car. to say TM will never be Xray or Mugen , you got that right, and i hope it never will be, each manufacturer is different, and TM has always been different, thats why there is only a certain few that drive them. lets say id probably be still driving one if something wasnt offered to me at a crucial point in time. all i can say is i have enjoyed the transition, but each car has its own problems.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:11 AM   #10612
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I think the idea of the engine leaning forward could lead into another dimension of troubles : glow plug installment become less precise.

Consider the situation if the glow plug is dropped, and the mechanic try to scoop it and quickly try to put it back. The threads alignment might not aligned properly due to the engine head is not perfectly vertical.... As the result, the turbo head plate become damaged, and the racer get into DNF due to engine trouble.

That's why TM will never be Xray or Mugen or Kyosho....... TM cars often get into DNF situation.
Glow plug miss-alignment??? Come on, that's your argument for why this concept won't be up there with Mugen, Kyosho or X-Ray??? That's a bit of a stretch (your pit person should be able to properly install a glow plug no matter the position of the engine). Don't get me wrong, I'm a loyal Kyosho fan but I've had a TM G4RS and this Concept II looks to have some fast forward innovations which may change the other manufacturers approach on chassis design and layout. A chassis that can be stiffened or softened front or rear. That's frickin cool!!! Unbelievable amount of ackerman adjustment not to mention the wheelbase adjustment, sealed fuel cell and of course the forward leaning engine mounted position. Now, I'm not saying I'll go out and buy one but seeing this new approach in design gets me excited about the future of 1/10 nitro and where it's heading

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Old 03-03-2009, 10:53 AM   #10613
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I think the idea of the engine leaning forward could lead into another dimension of troubles : glow plug installment become less precise.

Consider the situation if the glow plug is dropped, and the mechanic try to scoop it and quickly try to put it back. The threads alignment might not aligned properly due to the engine head is not perfectly vertical.... As the result, the turbo head plate become damaged, and the racer get into DNF due to engine trouble.

That's why TM will never be Xray or Mugen or Kyosho....... TM cars often get into DNF situation.
I've seen heaps of mugens, kyosho's and Xray with DNF next to there names. It's the drivers that get them into that situation not the brand car they drive
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:52 PM   #10614
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what i can think of is it'll be more difficult to start the engine by yrself as u can't use yr plug starter to push down the car onto the starterbox...
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Old 03-03-2009, 01:38 PM   #10615
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what i can think of is it'll be more difficult to start the engine by yrself as u can't use yr plug starter to push down the car onto the starterbox...
I have the LRP buggy with the engine at an angle - no problems.

It's only at a small angle though, 10-15 deg from the vertical
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Old 03-03-2009, 01:39 PM   #10616
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That's why TM will never be Xray or Mugen or Kyosho....... TM cars often get into DNF situation.

Obviously your conclusion is not ture. This design is new to G4 Series.

As last World Race event, only 4 to 5 G4s (out of 120s) attended the race. And one G4 went into A main final…… the result was very good even DNF finally.

For your logic, Xray is the worst, they have most cars attending in the event but they didn’t win the champion. Do not have bias, dude!

On the other hand, only a few folks running with G4 in major event around the world…. How you often see G4 get into DNF situation? Really unbelievable!
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Out of the two years that I've run my G4 I have only not finished two races. Both were by my choice. I had a terrable setup once and the other I forgot to put the pin back into the rear shaft on the one-way. I can't blame the cat for either of them.
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:55 PM   #10618
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Who cares how you stuff your plugs in, concept car looks good to me

not only that, TM marketing (gif/pix drawings, product writeups and presentations etc . . ) these 1~2 years really good too !!

it'll be a real wallet magnet !!
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:09 AM   #10619
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I have the LRP buggy with the engine at an angle - no problems.

It's only at a small angle though, 10-15 deg from the vertical

Hey Luis how is the new buggy? Have you got the new truggy aswell?
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Wow, so many G4 supporters

Only time will tell if G4 II will be a successful car or not.

I have bad experiences with G4S before..... bad experience from working on the car, and 2 times DNF. Perhaps that's why I feel " I'm done with G4 cars forever ".
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