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Old 08-10-2008, 06:22 AM   #9646
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Maybe give a try and dial out some exponential on your radio or reduce throttle speed.
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Old 08-10-2008, 06:25 AM   #9647
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car setup is also important. diff oils and most important, throttle Finger.
a clutch wont be effective if just grabbing the throttle. ease it on then the clutch will function smoothly rather than just on.
the black spring is hard, and i tightened to just see 1 thread . so not alot of preload on the spring, the no weights in the shoes make it lighter, so yes it will engage later, but also with out weight behind it. so it wont be as snappy.
hard spring and light weights. then adjust the spring as required. low traction 10K diff oil , and the rest is roll centers and springs. good luck.
yup, i believe throttle FINGER plays the most important part...

btw, how much harder is the black spring compared with the yellow spring? (since both are 1.8mm)
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Old 08-10-2008, 06:31 AM   #9648
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Black spring just works beter and doesnt get coil bind like the yellow one.
Better yet is just get a Mugen super hard or JP hard spring.
They work much better and dont bend/tweek to oneside like the TM1.8 black spring.
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Old 08-10-2008, 06:54 AM   #9649
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Black spring just works beter and doesnt get coil bind like the yellow one.
Better yet is just get a Mugen super hard or JP hard spring.
They work much better and dont bend/tweek to oneside like the TM1.8 black spring.
what i actually found was that the retaining plate insert, that the spring sits on, actually interfered with the flyout shoes. so once they flew out, they didnt return all the way back. they went as far back as the insert would let them. since one side of the spring didnt actually touch the retainer plate as much, that flyout seemed to be the one that didnt return properly. this is what i found kinked the spring, and made the clutch shoe wear uneven.
my resolution was to taper the flyouts in the center enough so there was sufficient gap between the flyout shoes and the retainer insert. i never had a clutch shoe wear bad after that and the clutch felt more consistent also. im guessing with the heat as well, the black spring would kink like Razzor said with the uneven preload on it from the flyout shoe.
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Old 08-10-2008, 07:10 AM   #9650
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what i actually found was that the retaining plate insert, that the spring sits on, actually interfered with the flyout shoes. so once they flew out, they didnt return all the way back. they went as far back as the insert would let them. since one side of the spring didnt actually touch the retainer plate as much, that flyout seemed to be the one that didnt return properly. this is what i found kinked the spring, and made the clutch shoe wear uneven.
my resolution was to taper the flyouts in the center enough so there was sufficient gap between the flyout shoes and the retainer insert. i never had a clutch shoe wear bad after that and the clutch felt more consistent also. im guessing with the heat as well, the black spring would kink like Razzor said with the uneven preload on it from the flyout shoe.
great...i'll change to black spring with no weights and also check on the shoes+retainer...

let's see whether i can get my car to go faster!!!
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Old 08-10-2008, 07:11 AM   #9651
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Black spring just works beter and doesnt get coil bind like the yellow one.
Better yet is just get a Mugen super hard or JP hard spring.
They work much better and dont bend/tweek to oneside like the TM1.8 black spring.
any chance of having the part number for the mugen spring?
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Old 08-10-2008, 03:45 PM   #9652
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great...i'll change to black spring with no weights and also check on the shoes+retainer...

let's see whether i can get my car to go faster!!!


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Just wondering if they make a 'wire type' sway bar for the rear of a G4s??? If so does anyone know the part number??
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Old 08-10-2008, 05:59 PM   #9654
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Just wondering if they make a 'wire type' sway bar for the rear of a G4s??? If so does anyone know the part number??
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Is there any shop in the US that carries G4RS parts other than wolfhobbies and ultraline? I need the rear suspension arms and wolfhobbies is out of stock right now. Can't order overseas as I need them by next Sunday.
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any chance of having the part number for the mugen spring?
Mugen spring H0767
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/1909

or the JP Hard spring # 93519
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Mugen spring H0767
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/1909

or the JP Hard spring # 93519
anyone tried the orion 'square' spring?
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anyone tried the orion 'square' spring?
I'm using it at the moment
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I'm using it at the moment
any reviews on this orion square spring?

btw, picked up the mugen spring today, will try it out...with no weights.
saw the orion spring too in my lhs, almost 3X the price of the mugen one.
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Is there any shop in the US that carries G4RS parts other than wolfhobbies and ultraline? I need the rear suspension arms and wolfhobbies is out of stock right now. Can't order overseas as I need them by next Sunday.
I would say your best chance is to get a set off someone off here.......... I would get some to you but I'm on my last set and waiting for a batch to come through too.

Your only other way I would consider is through RCshopping.com they are usually prity consistant at taking 4 days to get the stuff to you.

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