R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Nitro On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-21-2007, 05:02 PM   #8401
Tech Master
 
Z00M's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 1,173
Trader Rating: 15 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TM America View Post
Hello Racers,

We wish for the racing community to know that TMA Marketing & Distribution has informed Team Magic Model Industrial Co. that we will no longer distribute Team Magic products to dealers in the USA after November 1, 2007.

This has nothing to do with our belief in the quality of the product or how they handle retail customers. It is due to the business standard of ethics in respect to our dealers in the USA. The business standards that TMA Marketing holds and expects from all manufacturers we represent, in respect to protecting and respecting the dealers in the USA, is not being met by Team Magic Model.

TMA Marketing will continue as the exclusive distributor to Team Cobra Racing and a couple others to be announce shortly, and additionally as a distributor to many other high quality manufacturers as well.
I would think that grey marketing would be something TMA was accustomed to. It is certainly a philosophy that the founders were happy with at a retail level.

Does this mean Pheonix will get to continue on where they left off? (I guess they would have to convince Dennis to take them back again)
__________________
My blog: http://mikesrc.wordpress.com
XRAY XB4
## NOSRAM ## XRAY ## KO ##
www.nbhc.com.au - www.teamxray.com
Z00M is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2007, 05:51 PM   #8402
Tech Master
 
Motorman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,911
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Hello Racers,

We wish for the racing community to know that TMA Marketing & Distribution has informed Team Magic Model Industrial Co. that we will no longer distribute Team Magic products to dealers in the USA after November 1, 2007.

This has nothing to do with our belief in the quality of the product or how they handle retail customers. It is due to the business standard of ethics in respect to our dealers in the USA. The business standards that TMA Marketing holds and expects from all manufacturers we represent, in respect to protecting and respecting the dealers in the USA, is not being met by Team Magic Model.

TMA Marketing will continue as the exclusive distributor to Team Cobra Racing and a couple others to be announce shortly, and additionally as a distributor to many other high quality manufacturers as well.
Hate to say I told you so but I told you so sam. Best of luck.

Quote:
I would think that grey marketing would be something TMA was accustomed to. It is certainly a philosophy that the founders were happy with at a retail level.

Does this mean Pheonix will get to continue on where they left off? (I guess they would have to convince Dennis to take them back again)
Not a snowballs chance in hell.
__________________
Just here to give the world grief.
Motorman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2007, 05:51 PM   #8403
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 193
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pattojnr View Post
the G4+ one is nylon, not anodised alloy. the extra flex does gain some steering for sure.
Pattojnr, thanks for the heads up...

cheers!
OrAnGe PoWeR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2007, 09:15 PM   #8404
Tech Master
 
Z00M's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 1,173
Trader Rating: 15 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Motorman View Post

Not a snowballs chance in hell.
Sorry to say it, but I don't blame you. You should never have lost it in the first place.
__________________
My blog: http://mikesrc.wordpress.com
XRAY XB4
## NOSRAM ## XRAY ## KO ##
www.nbhc.com.au - www.teamxray.com
Z00M is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2007, 02:37 AM   #8405
Tech Elite
 
razzor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Durban, South Africa
Posts: 2,810
Default

Sad to see a brand loose such helpful and knowledgeable guys
TM has lost the plot and its very dissapointing to see.
We have some awesome guys that are doing great and are very helpfull and although there is so many more poeple out there that love TM products including myself, TM undermines there dedication and loyalty by doing the crap they do on the business side.
Ive got caught up in this policy of TM and have taken a large financial burden and loss due to it as well

To Team Magic (Nick Ko and company)

PLease wake up and smell the smoke !!!!!!! before you lose a good thing.

With all that has passed i still love my G4S !!!
__________________
Casterracing ZX1.5R
casterracing EX-1 Pro, SP Silver Arrow
TOP Racing Scythe, SP 17.5, SP GT Pro 2.0
TOP Racing Scythe, SP 4.5 V2, Hobbywing Xerun 120SD 2.0
TOP Racing Scythe, SP 13.5, Hobbywing Xerun 120SD 2.0
razzor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2007, 03:48 AM   #8406
Tech Elite
 
Pattojnr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Perth Australia
Posts: 4,594
Trader Rating: 19 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Z00M View Post
I would think that grey marketing would be something TMA was accustomed to. It is certainly a philosophy that the founders were happy with at a retail level.
a pretty cheap shot there i must say. but i couldnt have expected anything less.
__________________
Serpent - Walter RC
Serpent E Power ..... Serpent 747 Reds M3T
Serpent 966-TE Reds M7T .... S411ERYX Speedpassion 3.5T, T-Shox
Serpent 811-TE REDs R5T
Pattojnr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2007, 05:19 AM   #8407
Tech Elite
 
Kodak Hodak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: South Australia, Australia
Posts: 2,159
Trader Rating: 10 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to Kodak Hodak Send a message via Yahoo to Kodak Hodak Send a message via Skype™ to Kodak Hodak
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Z00M View Post
Sorry to say it, but I don't blame you. You should never have lost it in the first place.
yeah we LURVE you MIKE - Ha HA HA
__________________
★ DORMANT RC RACER ★

Last edited by Kodak Hodak; 10-22-2007 at 05:41 AM.
Kodak Hodak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2007, 07:43 AM   #8408
Tech Master
 
Z00M's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 1,173
Trader Rating: 15 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kodak Hodak View Post
yeah we LURVE you MIKE - Ha HA HA
Good to hear
__________________
My blog: http://mikesrc.wordpress.com
XRAY XB4
## NOSRAM ## XRAY ## KO ##
www.nbhc.com.au - www.teamxray.com
Z00M is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2007, 08:58 AM   #8409
Tech Elite
 
Francis M.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Yorba Linda, CA
Posts: 4,719
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

TM can't seem to Keep a good proffesional relationship with any of thier U.S. distributors wich in turn affects the local buyers. Ive seen this car and it does work pretty good but I could say the same thing about Mugen, Kyosho, Xray, and Serpent but the 4 companies Ive mentioned are more stable parts wise locally and comes with more features out the box.
__________________
TQ-racing Yokomo BD7 Airtronics
Francis M. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2007, 11:40 AM   #8410
Tech Regular
 
RayJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 445
Default Bad Business Ethics

Again, and again..........and still again TM does this to there distributors. I had a chance to see the frustrations Dennis had to deal with in trying to build there brand and reputation here in the US. The countless......thankless hours of him trying to make TM a recognized and popular name here in the US. He did alot for the brand.......and made some great inroads......and what do they give him back??? ..............a kick to the curb..............when someone else shows up with a checkbook. Cut me a break..........I hope people are beginning to REALLY get the picture!
RayJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2007, 01:54 PM   #8411
Tech Fanatic
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: SoCal
Posts: 874
Default

This is just me... But the only way TM can survive in the US is to give there car/products to another RC company that's not going to follow there bad business structure on selling, distribution and promotion for 1. 2, there name is not Trinity. 3, know's the US market. 4, has the respect of the RC community and 5, at the moment does not have a current nitro on road car and or buggy of there own. These names come to mind... Yokomo, OFNA and Team Associated. I know OFNA wouldn't touch the car because it would be a conflict of interest, but just think Jeffery Lin driving the G4+ with his red dot picco... Yokomo has been out of Nitro Sedan racing for a few years... Great company and still much respected in the RC community as is Team Associated... Outside of those 3 companies, the car will die in the US. Some of these companies mention have conflicting products on the electric sedan side and alot of work would have to go into the deal... I know Dennis and Sam tried and gave it there best shot, but if TM can't get out of the way of themselves... TM seems to be there own worst enemy and when things get hot, they run back to Trinity... and that's a NO-NO... I guess what I'm trying to say is, would RC die in the US if TM wasn't there??? Hell no... Would it be a bit more competitive if they were and had a Big name driver as well? Yes. The ship is sinking TM... Back away from your current bad business structure, spend the money and let a company that knows what it's doing and how to do it sell/distribute your products in the US... If you won't or can't do that... The G4, M1B and everything else you sell will go away like the Doo doo Bird... Extinct...

RC_Alan

Last edited by rc_alan; 10-22-2007 at 03:29 PM.
rc_alan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2007, 02:03 PM   #8412
Tech Elite
 
Francis M.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Yorba Linda, CA
Posts: 4,719
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rc_alan View Post
This is just me... But the only way TM can survive in the US is to give there car/products to another RC company that's not going to follow there bad business structure on selling, distribution and promotion for 1. 2, there name is not Trinity. 3, know's the US market. 4, has the respect of the RC community and 5, at the moment does not have a current nitro on road car and or buggy of there own. These names come to mind... Yokomo, OFNA and Team Associated. I know OFNA wouldn't touch the car because it would be a conflict of interest, but just think Jeffery Lin driving the G4+ with his red dot picco... Yokomo has been out of Nitro Sedan racing for a few years... Great company and still much respected in the RC community as is Team Associated... Outside of those 3 companies, the car will die in the US. Some of these companies mention have conflicting products on the electric sedan side and alot of work would have to go into the deal... I know Dennis and Sam tried and gave it there best shot, but if TM can't get out of the way of themselves... TM seems to be there own worst enemy and when things get hot, they run back to Trinity... and that's a NO-NO... I guess what I'm trying to say is, would RC die in the US if TM wasn't there??? Hell no... Would it be a bit more competitive if they were and had a Big name driver as well? Yes. The ship is sinking TM... Back away from your current bad business structure, spend the money and let a company that knows what it's doing and how to do it sell/distribute your products in the US... If you won't or can't do that... The G4, M1B and everything else sell you will go away like the Doo doo Bird... Extinct...

RC_Alan
The problem with your plan is that the three companies you listed are manufacturers more than distributors. They only distribute thier own cars and maybe some other items such as LRP.
TM just needs to clean up thier act and stop competing with thier own distributor or just start thier own here in the U.S. since they are running out of Honest people to deal with.

I know for a fact that Dennis put a lot of work getting the Car some respect here in the U.S. and was gaining some momentum before they switch to Trinity who did next to nothing promoting the G4s
__________________
TQ-racing Yokomo BD7 Airtronics
Francis M. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2007, 05:27 PM   #8413
Tech Adept
 
vc05hdt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Morley,Perth W.A.
Posts: 246
Default

Just to change the subject to something more interesting, how is the Team Magic crew going in the Aussie RC Titles?
vc05hdt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2007, 05:28 PM   #8414
Tech Elite
 
nitrobeast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Colonia, NJ
Posts: 2,340
Trader Rating: 41 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gansei View Post
it is 800ma Lipo (E-SKY (Chinese product)

i drilled carbon upper deck to expand (to put lipo)

and.. i used shoe-goo(glueing) to fix lipo.

6v REGULATOR WAS ATTACHED!!
I know e-sky, they also make helicopters.

When you say drilled, do you mean cut? How easy is carbon to cut?

Shoe goo is my friend too.

Thanks for the help...

Last edited by nitrobeast; 10-22-2007 at 05:50 PM.
nitrobeast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2007, 05:43 PM   #8415
Tech Elite
 
nitrobeast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Colonia, NJ
Posts: 2,340
Trader Rating: 41 (100%+)
Default US dist.

I hate to sound like an dummy but does this mean no more parts in the US?
nitrobeast is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FS: Team Magic G4 - LRP Z12R Team Spec 2 - Add RX/TX LogiK Australia For Sale/Trade 1 08-03-2007 02:00 AM
Team Magic G4s MaDaGAS CAR Australia For Sale/Trade 29 05-07-2007 03:30 AM
Brian Berry Joins Team Phenix/Team Magic Motorman Nitro On-Road 27 03-07-2006 05:51 AM
team magic g4 + elephant R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 4 04-26-2004 07:34 AM
Team Magic G4 "Black Magic" tennessee Nitro On-Road 32 04-20-2003 11:40 AM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 10:04 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net