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Old 06-25-2007, 01:35 AM   #7336
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sorry, but wat is wishbone? is that the dog bone???? y would we need to short it? also mentioned wheel base? does it mean tire width like 200mm rear?
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:42 AM   #7337
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sorry, but wat is wishbone? is that the dog bone???? y would we need to short it? also mentioned wheel base? does it mean tire width like 200mm rear?
wishbone = sus arm...

wheel base = the distance of front / rear tire.

long wheel base example => bus.. cornering is very slow!!!
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:46 AM   #7338
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Darren's article only spoke about shortening the front of the rear wishbone.

But if you do shorten the wheelbase, the following is true:

Move the rear wheels forward will place more static weight on the front wheels.
Moving the front wheels rearward will place more static weight on the rear wheels.

So in effect, you could counterbalance the weight change from the back to the front by shortening the rear of the front wishbones but all this would do is make the car shorter. This is a different effect to putting more weight on the front for more steering.

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thanks Zoom

Dario shorten front/rear all 2mm.

so i did copy.. ^^
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Darren's article only spoke about shortening the front of the rear wishbone.

But if you do shorten the wheelbase, the following is true:

Move the rear wheels forward will place more static weight on the front wheels.
Moving the front wheels rearward will place more static weight on the rear wheels.

So in effect, you could counterbalance the weight change from the back to the front by shortening the rear of the front wishbones but all this would do is make the car shorter. This is a different effect to putting more weight on the front for more steering.

Hope this helps.
Where did you get this from?
Shortening the wheelbase from the rear puts more weight to the front?

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Old 06-25-2007, 01:54 AM   #7340
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sorry, but wat is wishbone? is that the dog bone???? y would we need to short it? also mentioned wheel base? does it mean tire width like 200mm rear?
Wishbone is the A arm of the suspension.

Wheel base = distance from front to rear axle.

Hope this helps.

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Kitade(Knack Boss) shorten front sus arm only in his MTX-4


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Old 06-25-2007, 02:13 AM   #7342
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Tried the Spool setup today that Muppet suggested.
Very interesting setup that ran very well.
Only hassle i had was i started with 35w GS shock oil and have to go a little thicker to 40w or 45w due to the track being a little bit bumpy in sections.
The spool was actually very niced to drive with even with our track having 3 hairpin corners.
I ran with softer shocks other than that everything was setup as per the setup sheet.Car was very stabil and reacted well.The steering was more than ample.
I also was rather happy in that the morning session i had the car reasonably good on 42 shore tyres but after lunch the guys decided to sugar the track again and i had to go down to 40 shore all round although 40f/38r i think would have been perfect.
Track has been a bit difficult to find the right tyre combo since we resurfaced it a month back.
Possibly the extra sugar put on today has glased it and i hope for a little rain before Wednesday as the nats start on Thursday with open practice.

Id suggest guys keeping this setup as a base setup when running the spool.It realy is a good setup.
Hi Razzor, just building my G4S and wondering the setup you are talking about with the front spool. Can you direct me to link or page? Thank you
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Old 06-25-2007, 04:43 AM   #7343
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Shortening the wheelbase from the rear puts more weight to the front?

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Geometry is useful for something!

Also, it's written on post #4 of the raceday thread by your team boss.
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Old 06-25-2007, 05:18 AM   #7344
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:12 AM   #7345
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Hey guys

It's been a while since i've been on because i was doing my off-road racing. Now im back to the car i love!!!

On Sunday i went out and had a blast. Didnt do to good but i was happy. Ended up 4th in the b-main but had 2 flame. Oh well. The car handled great but it has a little push exiting corners on throttle. I need some setup help
This is my setup

spring front 1.6 rear 1.7
shock oil front/rear 60wt.
toe front 1.5 rear -3
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If you need more info please ask and i will check my setup sheet.
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:34 AM   #7346
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just ordered a whole bunch of G4+ parts for my G4S, plus new engine still in the air as not sure what to get,

Help is needed id say:

JLR - 1st
WASP - 2nd
Ninja -3rd


there all at good prices atmo, just wanna know what would be a easy engine to play with and keep up with the top end field!
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Yeah he's got that backwards. Whatever end is shortened is the one that gains static weight because the distance to the CG decreases.
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:57 AM   #7348
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just ordered a whole bunch of G4+ parts for my G4S, plus new engine still in the air as not sure what to get,

Help is needed id say:

JLR - 1st
WASP - 2nd
Ninja -3rd


there all at good prices atmo, just wanna know what would be a easy engine to play with and keep up with the top end field!
I too am in the market for a new mill. I was looking at the JLR today. I didnt want to spend more then $200 US and that comes in under that.
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Hi Razzor, just building my G4S and wondering the setup you are talking about with the front spool. Can you direct me to link or page? Thank you
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Think you guys should look at the CRF package deal with pipe etc..
good value for money.
The JLR though is a excellent engine too.
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