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Old 02-08-2006, 09:37 PM   #526
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Great Pics... lets hold the worlds in Puerta Vallarta, Mexico... love that place, blue ocean, white sand beaches.... very strong Pina Collatas.... okay back to reality here, ... desert, catus.... but for my friends back east and up north ... today was a pleasant 83 degress!!!!! Got to love it!
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I just looked over his set-up on 3hobby.net, and have to say his set-up is very similar to what I ran last year. Guys it is an awesome starting set-up. He makes some comments about narrowing the front end for more steering. He is quite right. I ran mine at 195mm all last year on the front end. It is a must. Car has way more corner entry and on-power steering.

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This car seems to like one shore softer in the front end wherever I raced. Please keep this in mind!!!! Try and stick with one brand of tire!!! It makes a huge difference in your set-ups. 37 or 38 shore fronts worked almost everywhere. I almost always ran 40 shore rears. If you race on a really high bite track you might try gluing the sidewalls of the 37 or 38 shore fronts with superglue or switching to 40 shore fronts. The idea here is to run the most traction possible w/o making the car loose or making it a bear on traction rolling. If the 40 shore fronts have to much traction superglue them as well. This is a tuning tip that really works.

Rear Camber set-up. Lower inside link....upper outside link. This car LIKES rear camber. Give it to the car!! I ran 4 degrees LHS and 3.5 degrees RHS. This is with the Hudy set-up gauges. If your using the plastic thingy that goes up against the tire I don't know what those numbers for camber are.
Car track width 200mm.

Rear sway Bar. Flat is probably a good starting point, but I haven't tried the new bar yet, but I have a feeling it will be at 90 degrees.

Front toe-out: I ran 1.5 degrees toe out both sides all last year. The car has lots of turn-in and lots of on power steering using 1.5 degrees. You will have to "drive" the car more on straights because of the toe-out but corners are where races are won.

Front Camber: LHS 2 degrees. RHS 1.5 degrees. Many people set-up there car the same one side to the next. That's okay....... but most on-road courses have more HIGH speed right handers. The car therefore needs a little more LHS camber to compensate for more high speed body roll to keep the tire planted.

Shocks and pistons: I ran two holes pistons with 60wt all last year. If your running the car for the first time, stick with that. The car will be fine. You will most likely experiment with pistons and oils when traction is very very high(traction rolling probelms). Here again you want to tune with tires first.

Springs: Kit springs make the car easy to drive almost everywhere. I ended up running one spring rate higher up front vs the rear. Like Team Magic Aqua up front and Rose in the rear.

Body Selection: What a huge tool!! I ran the Mazda 6 and Status 3.1 last year. The mazda 6 feels very responsive and very responsive. It will add just a little more steering to the car, but the car will feel more twitchy and loose at the rear wheels. I really like the Startus 3.1. It really settles the car down based on the set-ups I used. With the 3.1 you give up just a tad of front end bite because you gain alot more rear traction. If you put the bodies next to each other you will see why that makes sense. The 3.1 made the car alot more predictable, and easier to drive in the mains.

Tire Bias......front to rear. I like having a split of 1.5mm to 2mm. The car has way more on power steering and corner entry. 60mm rears and 58.5mm fronts. Please keep in mind this is with stock gearing.

Ride height: 5mm up front and 5.5mm rear. Or neutral.

DIFF Oil: I think the kit oil is 10,000 wt oil. If seems light compared to Mugen, Ofna and others. I have no idea how they grade them because they don't seem to use the same scale of grading. I get three grades of oil from the SAME MFR. , and use this as a base. The kit oil should give you lots of corner entry using the above set-up tips, because the oil feels light. Light oil will sacrifice a little on exit acelleration(car will diff more). I like to tune with these thoughts in mind. If the car has lots of turn-in and is not loose at all I will likely go up in diff oil weight to gain some corner exit acceleration.

WHEW LONG winded post but I hope this stuff may help some of you.
Ray, helped me and I don't even have a G4S.....yet! And, get some sleep man....you got a big week coming up.
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Old 02-09-2006, 09:11 AM   #528
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Hey Mike nice job. Gotta remember to charge those batteries bud!!

A little suggestion try the VR12 Skyline pipe. If you try it you'll really notice a difference when you put the hammer down!!
Hi Ray, sure, the only problem is that i only had a 10 minutes to charge my batteries between Main B and Main A, and i have no other pack of batteries, just the one that comes with the kit

Tnx for your suggestion, i'm already waiting for that pipe
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Great Pics... lets hold the worlds in Puerta Vallarta, Mexico... love that place, blue ocean, white sand beaches.... very strong Pina Collatas.... okay back to reality here, ... desert, catus.... but for my friends back east and up north ... today was a pleasant 83 degress!!!!! Got to love it!
hehe....Puerto Vallarta rocks!!....but if you want to know a real paradise, my advice........you most go to Cozumel (half and hour far away from CanCun), by the way, we have a great track in Merida, five hours far away from CanCun by road, so don't forget your G4
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Hi Ray, sure, the only problem is that i only had a 10 minutes to charge my batteries between Main B and Main A, and i have no other pack of batteries, just the one that comes with the kit

Tnx for your suggestion, i'm already waiting for that pipe
I notice that the battery pack of G4S has a plasitc parts on it to hold the battery in place.
this part mean that we cannot make our own pack unless someone sell the parts alone.
Is that anyway people can get extra pack or the parts alone?
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Old 02-09-2006, 12:06 PM   #531
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we have the brackets available.
Fyi Winners circle at www.gasrccar is now stocking G4S
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Fyi Winners circle at www.gasrccar.com is now stocking G4S
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Old 02-09-2006, 01:31 PM   #533
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I could forget my wife...but my new G4s... NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That sounds like a great place to go, just may try that this fall.


G4S available at winners circle or www.racedayhobbies.com ... lol...

I have built my car the last couple fo days... sometimes business gets in the way of fun! I am with everyone else this car went together easy, directions are good and each package made everything follow a pattern. Very well thought out.

The car looks great and very solid. I am going to take it out and try it as soon as my engine comes in. Thanks to everyone for the setups posted and I will post on racedayhobbies.com setup used at Ft Meyers. These excellent drivers should be able to give us a lot of great input.... Can't wait!

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Currently building mine, got to take the radio gear out of my FW05RR now before I can go any further with the G4S.
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Old 02-09-2006, 02:00 PM   #535
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I could forget my wife...but my new G4s... NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That sounds like a great place to go, just may try that this fall.


G4S available at winners circle or www.racedayhobbies.com ... lol...

I have built my car the last couple fo days... sometimes business gets in the way of fun! I am with everyone else this car went together easy, directions are good and each package made everything follow a pattern. Very well thought out.

The car looks great and very solid. I am going to take it out and try it as soon as my engine comes in. Thanks to everyone for the setups posted and I will post on racedayhobbies.com setup used at Ft Meyers. These excellent drivers should be able to give us a lot of great input.... Can't wait!

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I got an OS .12 TZ coming for this car. I heard a lot of good things about the engine and thought I try it. I am playing with the car today... everything quiet on the website today... so play time! I am using one of the setups for a starter base.

I have some bodies coming also... so can't wait for my painter to finish!!! I always believed if you can drive fast , then always look good.... so I always look good!!!!
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hey mr. sam,
are you going out to SRS today?
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D man you ready How bout posting your initial impression of the car.

Part number for the battery bracket and rear top deck mounts is 502263 in case you want to build your own batteries out of 1000 Mah AAA Sanyos if you can get them.
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From what I understand Sanyo 1000 mah AAA will be in the US soon. Theyb already have there 900mah's . Sanyo's to me have been very reliable and accurate in there numbers. There are afew places out there that build custom battery packs. The configuration is simply a square with one cell on top. I know I will be getting some from Batteries America when I get back from Winternats. I will order them w/o the shrink wrap, and will ask them to just include it with the built reciever pack. Then I can slide the bracket onto the batteries and shrink away. Should be a piece of cake. I really don't like making my own packs because the solder joints are so tiny, and my fingers are just to damn big anyway. Team Magic....hint hint.... 1000mah packs???

One thing I do know that is some people are over charging charging their packs at 1 amp. The first few cycles are the hardest on any nimh, but should be done with care and at no more than .5 amps. It usually takes a receiver pack about 3 to 5 cycles for it to reach maximum charge and discharge capabilty for racing. I don't know this for sure but that has been my experience. Of course you guys probably know all this stuff already, but maybe there's afew out there reading that might find this helpful.
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I notice that the battery pack of G4S has a plasitc parts on it to hold the battery in place.
this part mean that we cannot make our own pack unless someone sell the parts alone.
Is that anyway people can get extra pack or the parts alone?
Maybe this : 502263 G4 Radio Plate Support & Receiver Battery Mount (S/Lemans)
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