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Old 01-17-2007, 06:32 AM   #3406
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Come on guys, can anyone help me?
i have not found a online copy either on the G4s. but mongoose/ evo are on the TM site. maybe asking TM for a copy might get you somewhere ? have you lost your original ?
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Old 01-17-2007, 06:44 AM   #3407
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ED trans weight is some heavy.

so i did light weight tune for drive pully
Not so sure about the ED system being heavy, but what I do know is that with the standard drive system I could not get the Wasp CRF to pull out of a corner, no matter what clutch gearing set up I tried, and the motor always got very hot, so I switched to a torquey JP.
But since fitting this ED system I have had problems with wheelspin as I now have too much torque (even with tallest 1st gear), so last weekend I decided to try the Wasp CRF again, and is was pulling easily and running much cooler (16/20 pinion).
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Old 01-17-2007, 06:47 AM   #3408
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i want to get droop setting relation information.

i think there are some rules when i must increase or decrease droop.

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This is a guide I've edited from different sources, hope it helps

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DOWNSTOPS

Down travel (or droop) is how far the suspension drops below when raised from ride height, before the tires leaves the ground. If you set a car on the ground, push it down a few times to settle the suspension, then begin to slowly pick up one end of the car, you’ll notice that the tires will stay on the ground for a little bit before they come up. This is droop.. Adjusting droop can greatly affect the way your car handles.
As you increase your front droop you will smooth the car going into the turn, and gain steering on the exit of the turn.
As you decrease your front droop your car will initiate the turn quicker but will have less steering coming out of the turn. The car will also have a more responsive feel.
As you increase the rear droop your car will gain more side bite and traction.
As you decrease the rear droop you car will become more responsive and will have less side bite, but giving you more steering.
Normally on low bite tracks such as parking lots you will find more droop will increase traction and hook your car up. On high bite tracks you will find that less droop will help keep the car flatter and increase corner speed and lap times.
If you need a little bit more steering on power, or in the middle of the turn , add a little more droop to the front suspension. If you want a little bit more rear traction in the middle of the turn, reduce the amount of droop in the front or increase the amount of droop in the rear.

IMPORTANT: It is very important to have the same downstop settings on the left and right

QUICK GUIDE OF DOWNSTOP ADJUSTMENT

Front Downstops
Higher
• Decreases front chassis upward travel on-throttle
• Increases high-speed steering
• Increases “initial” on-throttle understeer
• Better on smooth tracks
Lower
• Increases upward chassis travel on-throttle
• Decreases high-speed steering
• Decreases “initial” on-throttle understeer
• Better on bumpy tracks

Rear Downstops
Higher
• Decreases rear chassis upward travel off-throttle or under braking
• Increases stability under braking
• Better on smooth tracks
Lower
• Increases rear chassis upward travel off-throttle or under braking
• Increases steering in slow corners
• Better on bumpy tracks
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Old 01-17-2007, 06:57 AM   #3409
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This is a guide I've edited from different sources, hope it helps

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DOWNSTOPS

Down travel (or droop) is how far the suspension drops below when raised from ride height, before the tires leaves the ground. If you set a car on the ground, push it down a few times to settle the suspension, then begin to slowly pick up one end of the car, you’ll notice that the tires will stay on the ground for a little bit before they come up. This is droop.. Adjusting droop can greatly affect the way your car handles.
As you increase your front droop you will smooth the car going into the turn, and gain steering on the exit of the turn.
As you decrease your front droop your car will initiate the turn quicker but will have less steering coming out of the turn. The car will also have a more responsive feel.
As you increase the rear droop your car will gain more side bite and traction.
As you decrease the rear droop you car will become more responsive and will have less side bite, but giving you more steering.
Normally on low bite tracks such as parking lots you will find more droop will increase traction and hook your car up. On high bite tracks you will find that less droop will help keep the car flatter and increase corner speed and lap times.
If you need a little bit more steering on power, or in the middle of the turn , add a little more droop to the front suspension. If you want a little bit more rear traction in the middle of the turn, reduce the amount of droop in the front or increase the amount of droop in the rear.

IMPORTANT: It is very important to have the same downstop settings on the left and right

QUICK GUIDE OF DOWNSTOP ADJUSTMENT

Front Downstops
Higher
• Decreases front chassis upward travel on-throttle
• Increases high-speed steering
• Increases “initial” on-throttle understeer
• Better on smooth tracks
Lower
• Increases upward chassis travel on-throttle
• Decreases high-speed steering
• Decreases “initial” on-throttle understeer
• Better on bumpy tracks

Rear Downstops
Higher
• Decreases rear chassis upward travel off-throttle or under braking
• Increases stability under braking
• Better on smooth tracks
Lower
• Increases rear chassis upward travel off-throttle or under braking
• Increases steering in slow corners
• Better on bumpy tracks
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Old 01-17-2007, 10:31 AM   #3410
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Come on guys, can anyone help me?
Ill try and scan one tomorrow ,last time I scanned amanual in pdf it turned out to be a very large file.Lets see what happens
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Old 01-17-2007, 10:35 AM   #3411
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Not so sure about the ED system being heavy, but what I do know is that with the standard drive system I could not get the Wasp CRF to pull out of a corner, no matter what clutch gearing set up I tried, and the motor always got very hot, so I switched to a torquey JP.
But since fitting this ED system I have had problems with wheelspin as I now have too much torque (even with tallest 1st gear), so last weekend I decided to try the Wasp CRF again, and is was pulling easily and running much cooler (16/20 pinion).
That has been noticed by us as well ,its been from not enough to too much.
Would love to try out the new CRF in my car.Its supposed to be easier to tune.
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Old 01-18-2007, 03:16 AM   #3412
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Hey All,

Well got my butt into gear and got some heat shrink for the servo wires and antenna upper deck section.

I tell you its a real pain in the butt, as everything is tight a squishy....

But in the end i have done some mods that will make me sleep better i guess.

Mod 1. Drilled the hole bigger on the Alloy antenna holder - for more room and clearance.

Mod 2. Drilled the Reciever cage on the side, so the wire of the antenna comes out easy and not kinked.

Mod 3. Heat shrink the entire antenna right up inside of the balloon where the reciever is wrapped with 2 x balloons to protect as dirt & grime, plus prevent any glitches.

Mod. 4 Super Glued an OFF CUT cable tie, to the power plug attachment on the G4S, this helps to pull out after races etc.... Found the Tip on here!!! NICE

Mod 5. Resoldered the entire battery pack to be that bit more solid and less to fracture under bumps and rolls.....

Overall it went smooth, cant find any glitches yet, thou x-fingers all well once hits the track....!

Here's so,me pics to showcase what i have done!

Enjoy, feed back is always great
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Old 01-18-2007, 04:16 AM   #3413
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i don t understand why it happens to u but not to me we have same car,radio and spectrum cant see why i dont get this problem

im thinking the battery pack was to blame i resoldered it and took other precautions mentioned already
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Old 01-18-2007, 04:26 AM   #3414
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Hey guys Just painted my first shell for my g4s turned out great.Kosta servos work fine thankyou i appritiate it and last of all i get me novarossi 2630 pipe and manifold next week.I CANT WAIT IM EXCITED
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good to here well cum on then wheres the pics of the shell u cant say u painted it but dont show us
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Hey guys Just painted my first shell for my g4s turned out great.Kosta servos work fine thankyou i appritiate it and last of all i get me novarossi 2630 pipe and manifold next week.I CANT WAIT IM EXCITED

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good to here well cum on then wheres the pics of the shell u cant say u painted it but dont show us
hey guys got no camera at the moment so i go to my bro tommorrow night and use his.how do i import photo into forum and what resolution should it be?????
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im thinking the battery pack was to blame i resoldered it and took other precautions mentioned already

yeah its not the best solder on ther, i have also re-soldered my battery pack.... Just to be safe of the 100mph flying karate air crash....

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yeah its not the best solder on ther, i have also re-soldered my battery pack.... Just to be safe of the 100mph flying karate air crash....

Heres a PIC

thats my next job resoldering battery pack
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