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Old 08-07-2006, 07:15 AM
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What a fun three days of racing. Special Thanks to Dennis and my racing buds for a fun time. The car was just awesome!! I think it turned afew heads with it's performance. I wish I could have made it to the A but I fell short by afew seconds in qualifying. Oh well.........I'm still learning to get to the next level.

Congrats to Bobby on his TQ!!!! Wow was he smokin fast!! I really felt bad for him that his motor crapped out on him. I could just see his absolute disgust at not being able to race with his peers. He's a great driver and his input on car set-up helped us all.

Congrats to you on second in the A Brian!!! You drove just an awesome race, and it was fun watching you wheel the car with some awesome fast laps! You were sooooo close!!
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Old 08-07-2006, 07:50 AM
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We made our debut with the G4s at the 4th round of the South African Nationals this weekend.
All 3 of us running the G4s had some gremlins at some time or other.
Driver Scott Maclure finished 3rd in A mains with a very hard and fast race.
I qualified in C mains 2nd position.
Gary McDonough qualified B mains 9 position.

Unfortunate for me I had radio interference problems in the first 2 qualifying heats ,which got sorted and I placed a good run in the 3rd heat to qualify me 23rd overall.
4th heat was awesome as we tweaked the clutch and car was really good ,managed to get a 1 lap lead on the field but it was not to be ,my throttle servo jammed intermittently at full throttle and cost me the race.Judging from my pace I would have qualified in the high B mains
In my final again car was fantastic and I had a good race with 2 competitors close behind ,after first 2 fuel stops I managed to get ahead by a lap and a half.
18 minutes into the 30 minute final with a considerable lead I had a flame out for fuel.
My pitmen were doing there best to get me started and back into circulation but couldn't get engine started ,thinking engine was too lean they richened my mixtures and soon found out the actual problem had been that the glow plug came loose.
That was my race and I finished 7th in the C mains.

Scott had good qualifying runs but we found he's engine to be quite thirsty with him just making the 5 minute heats.
We did have issues with brake fade with our cars and I had this sorted by replacing with Kfactory pads.
Scott also had a hassle with the brake pulley stripping but fortunately not in he's fast heat.replaced brake pulley as well with Kfactory item.
He managed to qualify 5th in the A mains.

Gary got of to a slow start with handling issues ,but got car sorted after getting set-up advice from Scott.
He managed to qualify 19th overall which is good as he hadn't really driven the car before.
Unfortunately he had some problems in the mains and had to change a damaged fuel tank but managed to resume racing.

Overall the G4s made an impression with a 3rd place finish on its first big event and us learning about what works and what does not work.
Have to say thanks to all that contribute to this thread and Darren for tips.
Now I just need to sort out my Palmaris PR 12 ,I ran a NovaRossi with Palamaris BRB piston and sleeve set ,and it ran well.
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Old 08-07-2006, 07:51 AM
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Wow, what a week. First I want to thank everyone who helped me out... My father, Dennis, Ray J, Brian, Dave, Mark Rodney, Mark Unrath and the rest of the Phenix team. It was an unbelievable weekend for me that had a bitter end. Taking TQ was huge and it really showed how phenominal my car was all weekend. I really think this race shows what the G4S is capable of as some of the best racers in the US were there, and the car set the pace.

Thanks again to everyone and hopefully we can get the G4 in the winners circle soon. Congrats to Brian Berry on a great 2nd place finish as well.
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Old 08-07-2006, 10:14 AM
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CONGRATS TO BOBBY FLACK

Originally Posted by asw7576
Add shims inside the clutchbell ( between clutch spring & first bearing ). Don't use shims after the thrust bearings.
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but when you add shims inside you will have to use shims after the thrust bearing to set the play of the clutchbell. i think it also matters... what is the right distance play for the clutch play?
i am using the old tranny... it seems to work really fine with the S
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Old 08-07-2006, 10:48 AM
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WOW!!! What a great 4 days of racing and meeting new friends. First off let me say thanks to Dennis for all of his help and support. Dennis really does go out if his way for making sure the team is prepared and has what it needs to get the job done.

Bobby Flack - What can I say dude, awesome driving, mad skill and you put the G4S on top. Congrats!!!

Brian - It was great meeting you and your dad. You displayed some mad skills on the track and also showed that the G4S is an awesome machine.

Ray - It was great seeing you again. Thanks for all the support and it was great racing with you in the B-Main.

Mark, Demetris, and Bobby - It was a pleasure meeting you and all of you drove a great race. Thanks for the support and helping out in the pits and providing feedback on the car. Keep up the great work and I'll see you guys next time.

Congrats to everyone running the G4S this past weekend!!!
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Old 08-07-2006, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rbboy
CONGRATS TO BOBBY FLACK



asw7576:

but when you add shims inside you will have to use shims after the thrust bearing to set the play of the clutchbell. i think it also matters... what is the right distance play for the clutch play?
i am using the old tranny... it seems to work really fine with the S
Place shims on the inside so you can set the clutch gap
then
Place shims on the outside to adjust the end float
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Old 08-07-2006, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NiMo
Place shims on the inside so you can set the clutch gap
then
Place shims on the outside to adjust the end float
I know... but mine is unique hehehe..... ( I don't recommend it ! )

I don't need to add anymore shims after the thrust bearing because I add 0.3mm shim between engine's front bearing and flywheel and 0.2mm shims between pressure plate and clutch shoe ( at the three pins ). Finally, two 0.3mm shims between centax spring's locknut and clutchbell bearing.

With two 0.3mm shims between centax spring's locknut and first bearing on the clutchbell, I intentionally push the bearing goes deeper inside the clutchbell and thus no wobbling at all.

I'm using Green Yellow Spring, all cylindrical weight at UFO clutch, and the clutch shoe is almost touching the clutchbell but it still can spin. When the engine is on high rpm, only the clutch shoe move towards the bell. The bell is fixed, or stationary !!! ( That's why I don't recommend it )
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Old 08-07-2006, 11:04 PM
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result from the SA national.
DURBAN NATIONALS
Results for : NITRO TOURING 200mm A Final
Sunday, Aug 6 2006 12:00:56

Pos Car Name Details Laps Total Time B/Lap A/Lap StDev
1 3 Michael Wiseman DMCC Serpent710 Mega 71 00:30:21.139 024.392 025.649 01.087
2 1 Dean Steenmans DMCC Mugen JP 70 00:30:05.880 024.345 025.798 01.445
3 5 Scott McLure DMCC Team Magic 69 00:30:13.280 025.063 026.279 01.413
4 4 Steve Munslow TRAP MUGEN MTX4 JP 69 00:30:20.354 025.140 026.381 01.474
5 6 Jaco Uys WRCR Mugen MTX4 JP FX 68 00:30:18.209 025.053 026.738 01.954
6 8 Tony d Oliveira DMCC Serpent 710 Mega 68 00:30:27.873 025.641 026.880 01.292
7 10 Travis Carlyle DMCC Serpent 710 JP FX 66 00:30:01.330 025.077 027.292 03.487
8 9 Stephen Smith TRAP MUGEN MTX4 JP 65 00:30:11.056 025.609 027.862 02.211
9 7 Dave Wiseman DMCC Serpent 705 Mega 48 00:24:42.634 026.043 030.888 03.361
10 2 Taki Dermatis WRCR MUGEN JP FX 15 00:06:36.469 024.513 026.431 02.889


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result from the SA national.
DURBAN NATIONALS
Results for : NITRO TOURING 200mm A Final
Sunday, Aug 6 2006 12:00:56

Pos Car Name Details Laps Total Time B/Lap A/Lap StDev
1 3 Michael Wiseman DMCC Serpent710 Mega 71 00:30:21.139 024.392 025.649 01.087
2 1 Dean Steenmans DMCC Mugen JP 70 00:30:05.880 024.345 025.798 01.445
3 5 Scott McLure DMCC Team Magic 69 00:30:13.280 025.063 026.279 01.413
4 4 Steve Munslow TRAP MUGEN MTX4 JP 69 00:30:20.354 025.140 026.381 01.474
5 6 Jaco Uys WRCR Mugen MTX4 JP FX 68 00:30:18.209 025.053 026.738 01.954
6 8 Tony d Oliveira DMCC Serpent 710 Mega 68 00:30:27.873 025.641 026.880 01.292
7 10 Travis Carlyle DMCC Serpent 710 JP FX 66 00:30:01.330 025.077 027.292 03.487
8 9 Stephen Smith TRAP MUGEN MTX4 JP 65 00:30:11.056 025.609 027.862 02.211
9 7 Dave Wiseman DMCC Serpent 705 Mega 48 00:24:42.634 026.043 030.888 03.361
10 2 Taki Dermatis WRCR MUGEN JP FX 15 00:06:36.469 024.513 026.431 02.889


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Old 08-08-2006, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobby Flack
Wow, what a week. First I want to thank everyone who helped me out... My father, Dennis, Ray J, Brian, Dave, Mark Rodney, Mark Unrath and the rest of the Phenix team. It was an unbelievable weekend for me that had a bitter end. Taking TQ was huge and it really showed how phenominal my car was all weekend. I really think this race shows what the G4S is capable of as some of the best racers in the US were there, and the car set the pace.

Thanks again to everyone and hopefully we can get the G4 in the winners circle soon. Congrats to Brian Berry on a great 2nd place finish as well.
Hi Bobby Great result.
Can you guys post a set up used at this event.
Are any of you coming over for the worlds.

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Old 08-09-2006, 04:19 AM
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Hi Guys

Have just finished reading this thread... Been awhile since i have dropped by to have a looksy. Great to see TM have overcome all of the major problems that the early models had.

I am looking very serious at getting a G4S and have the following questions i need some help with:

Out of the box does the G4S have overdrive?

Do the screw from the 5th body post plate (the long ones that attach to the radio tray) still strip out?

Apart from the K1498 Brake Pads is there anything else i require to make a reliable ride?

Look forward to your replies...

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Old 08-09-2006, 04:40 AM
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Out of the box the car is great , we use Daz's setup on 3hobby.net.
Only real hassle has been the brakes and to change the brake pulley to a ally one.
Other than that std car is
Have had no issues with 5th body post.
Cant say much about the overdrive ,but a fellow racer just finished 3rd in Amains using stock car with only brake pad and brake pulley upgrade.
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Old 08-09-2006, 06:06 AM
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Comes as a 50/50 drive
Many ways to give overdrive on this car, here are just 3:
1)Change 27T side front pulley to either 26T or 25T
2)change 19T side rear pulley to 20T
3)change 19T rear/brake pulley to 18T

I feel comfortable with 26T side front pulley and a 1mm to 1.5mm split.
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Old 08-09-2006, 06:25 AM
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What would happen if I used
20t brake
20t side
26t front side.

I run 1t smaller 1st gear pinion and 45t 2nd gear spur.
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Originally Posted by razzor
What would happen if I used
20t brake
20t side
26t front side.

I run 1t smaller 1st gear pinion and 45t 2nd gear spur.
I'm thinking of going that 20/20/26 route as the motor I currently have can easily pull a 20T pinion with 19/19/26.
All you are doing is increasing the FDR of the car, but it also means the gear shaft is running slower (less bearing drag?)
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