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Old 03-26-2003, 07:58 PM   #886
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Mytsn just posted this blank setup sheet PDF file for download.

http://www.mytsn.com/products/downlds.asp?prid=2471
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Old 03-27-2003, 08:21 PM   #887
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What kind of track you all racing on that you will need a 14t and 17t pinion!?!?!?
It must be a track that dosn't have a strait-away or not a very big one!!
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Old 03-27-2003, 09:10 PM   #888
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Opinions on this car? Is it awesome right out of the box? Trying to decide on a new nitro car. Just sold my NTC3.

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Old 03-27-2003, 10:30 PM   #889
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What kind of track you all racing on that you will need a 14t and 17t pinion!?!?!?
It must be a track that dosn't have a strait-away or not a very big one!!
Well, sometimes lower pinions are necessary... The tracks do have straightways but they are sometimes no more than 120 feet long.

Think about it... Reflex, V1R and the MTX-3 cars have stock internal drive ratios of 2.53 compared to the Serpent's internal drive ratio of 2. For the MTX-3, pair this up with the stock 16T/20T pinions and 47T/43T spurs, you end up with 7.42 and 5.43 final drive ratios respectively for the 1st and 2nd gears.

Compare this to our lowest possible final drive ratios (assuming using stock pulleys) of 6.67 and 5.11 using 15T/18T pinions and 50T/46T spurs, the Mugen's have more acceleration out of the corners or from standstill.

Yes, for long straight tracks, the Serpents sure dominate but for short tracks, it'll be tough. Tracks on this side of the world are unfortunately on the shorter side.

So using the optional 22T/47T and 17T pulleys, this will effectively translate the 15T/18T pinions to something like 14T/17T with 7.12 and 5.46 final drive ratios. If the 14T and 17T pinions are physically available and using stock 23T/46T and 18T pulleys, final drive ratios are 7.14 and 5.41 respectively using 50T/46T spurs.

I think personally, most of the time the Serpent 705 / Impulse is always overgeared for most tracks. Even on super large tracks like the one in Ohio where the worlds were held, there is absolutely no problems with regards to having enough gear. I think the problem is always looking for the lowest gear possible on tight tracks with the Impulse / 705.

I think I mentioned about how a friend's 3 port turbo STS RS3 mod engine on an Impulse with the optional internal pulleys and 13T/16T fixed pinions on an old Centax clutchbell with 50T/45T spurs (which effectively gives about 8.22 and 6.01 final drive ratios) that outran a 5 port Rody tuned on a Reflex on the straights, out of the corners and in the infield
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Old 03-27-2003, 10:44 PM   #890
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Opinions on this car? Is it awesome right out of the box? Trying to decide on a new nitro car. Just sold my NTC3.

Thnaks,
You just sold a good car

No doubt, the NTC3 is a good car and handles good out of the box but seriously, the 705 is much more durable and can take a heavier beating than the NTC3. Well that's my opinion and many 705 users can testify to that...

With the front one way diff that comes stock with the 705, it will be more difficult to drive than the front and rear ball diff equipped NTC3. If you haven't driven a car equipped with a one way front diff, you need to change your drivng style. The 705 itself needs to be built correctly and it is very sensitive to tweak. Once that is set right, it's only a matter of playing around with the droop settings and the shocks. Once that is set, the rest is tire selection, caster and front sway bar settings.

Personally, I will not hide the fact that the Serpent 705 / Impulse will have a steeper learning curve than the NTC3. But once set correctly, you have a world beater car in your hands. Good luck in whatever car you choose
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Old 03-29-2003, 09:24 AM   #891
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http://www.mytsn.com/tracks/track.as...881&cm=5&adr=1

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Old 03-29-2003, 12:48 PM   #892
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Do any of you guys have any problems fitting protoform bodies to your 705? I'm in the process of painting a protoform civic, and the wheel wells don't match up at all. I think it may be the front bumper that's pushing the body back. The wheel wells are about a half inch off.

Any suggestions to this problem would be great. I know the HPI bodies don't line up, but I thought the protoform bodies were supposed to fit nicely.
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Old 03-29-2003, 02:38 PM   #893
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Default Gear Ratio / Setup Sheet

InitialD,
I completely agree with your opinions on the gearing issue !!!
Unfortunately here in Arizona I actually ran a 12/15 using the old clutch set-up because our straightaway is only approx 100 + ft long. It is basically an Electric Car set up, however it is fun.

When we make it over to California to race the Crystal Park Track and the Ron Paris/Speedline Race each year in Vegas, I still never utilize a higher gear than a 15/18 on the Centax Set-up.

I think Serpents always have been hard to get to rock and roll off of the start or out of the corners.
Beleive me , I've had Toffelmire, Tennesee, Baker, etc... Help out with Clutch set-ups, engines (currently using the Novamega SX 12 RE MS engine) and although it makes up for some of the low end I am looking for I am still wanting a 13 or 14 tooth gear if at all possible.

As far as the link to the Set up sheets you mentioned, Ive been to that page 5 times and still do not see where the set up sheet is located for download, any Ideas ???? where to look.
All I see is this :

14.2.2003 EFRA 1/10 I.C. 200mm Touring Car rules 11 kB DOWNLOAD!
14.2.2003 IFMAR 1/10 I.C. 200mm Sedan rules 16 kB DOWNLOAD!
29.1.2003 Serpent 705 Reference guide (pdf) 286 kB DOWNLOAD!
22.1.2003 Partslist S-705 ev2 67 kB DOWNLOAD!
6.1.2003 Serpent 705 Manual (pdf) 1 MB DOWNLOAD!

Nothing about a PDF file for a set up sheet >>>

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Old 03-29-2003, 03:29 PM   #894
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I found the Setup Sheet, I just had to sign in to Mytsn and then Reload the page !!!!!!!

As far as the gearing goes, does anyone have the Serpent Part Numbers #'s handy for the 47-22-17 set up, it may help alot for my situation ???????

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With the setup up sheet, I had the very same problem.....until I logged in!! Seems you can't see the file until you log yourself in.

ammdrew: the link you gave for the winternats video doesn't seem to lead to a valid page. Could you tell me where you found the video?

Cheers, Mark.
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Old 03-29-2003, 03:48 PM   #896
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hey you are correct try this.. i posted it ..

http://www.mytsn.com/tracks/track.as...881&cm=5&adr=1

must of cut part off. sorry
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Default Speedline Grand Prix "Las Vegas"

April 10th - 13th Two weeks away.

180 entries, all gas, New Drivers Stand Awesome set up.

Hope to see some of you there !!!!!!!!!!!

For more info go to the Las Vegas 4 Aces Website and check out the Speedline Grand Prix Site, as well as their Photo's section.
Tons of photos.

Their Forum is hosted by the Starting Grid.

As an Added Note the West Coast is Stacked this year with all of the Top Sedan Races Being Held out this way !!!!

Air Tronics 2003 Spring challenge Last Weekend (California)

2003 Speed Line Race (Las Vegas) April 10-13

Roar Region 12 Championships May 16-18 (California)
may as well be a National with who shows up.

26th Annual Texas Biggie May 23rd-26th (Texas)

2003 McCoy Championships June 21st - 23rd (California)

2003 Gas Open Nationals July 10th - 13th (Texas)

2003 Sedan Nationals Aug. 7th - 10th (California)

2003 Ron Paris Memorial Race October (Las Vegas)

Hope to see some Serpents Head out this way this year !!!!!

Scott

Go to http://www.swrc.biz and visit the Nats Page for more info and links to most of the sites hosting these races.
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Old 03-29-2003, 05:03 PM   #898
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you won't have any money or vacation left after this years race season..

best of luck in vegas..

the pulleys are all standard impact parts with the 17 being a new part.. ashford has them i bielieve it would probably be a great asset, you would hate to have to beg one from the serp guys in vegas..
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Old 03-30-2003, 10:20 AM   #899
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Does anyone use Protoform bodies?
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Old 03-30-2003, 10:51 AM   #900
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can i see some pics of ur cars?? cuz im gettin mine in like 2 weeks and i just love this car.. i need to see pics...lol
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