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Old 08-03-2003, 09:43 PM   #2896
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Initial steering response will be "slower" than when the front shocks are stood up vertical. Don't get me wrong... It's not like there's a delay or lag time in steering... Just that when the shocks are stood vertical, the responds are somewhat magnified. Laying the shocks horizontal smoothens out initial steering input that makes it very stable during high speed tracks. It makes the shocks softer and more progressive. During mid corner, you get more side bite. So going into high speed sweepers, shocks that are more horizontally layed down will be better for the car.

I find that when the front shocks are stood up, the car needs to be setup so that the rear of the car can respond and react as fast as the front steering input. When you can get it correct, a more vertical shock position will be good for small tight tracks as the car will be sensitive to steering input.
So will i need to keep the Graphite shock towers on if i lay down the shocks front and rear?
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Old 08-03-2003, 09:46 PM   #2897
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What about servo horn?? the one for Throttle servo??
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Old 08-03-2003, 09:49 PM   #2898
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So will i need to keep the Graphite shock towers on if i lay down the shocks front and rear?

No, you can take off your shock towers!!
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Old 08-03-2003, 09:55 PM   #2899
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What about servo horn?? the one for Throttle servo??
Sorry, but Serpent haven't released a servo horn for hitech,, the only thing I now for sure is that the servo horns comes in 23, 24 and 25 tooth,, So I can't tell you on this one , because I only use Futaba servos,, Sorry!!

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Old 08-03-2003, 10:43 PM   #2900
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I find that when the front shocks are stood up, the car needs to be setup so that the rear of the car can respond and react as fast as the front steering input. When you can get it correct, a more vertical shock position will be good for small tight tracks as the car will be sensitive to steering input.
If i have the front shocks stood up, must the smae be applied on the rear. Me running on tight technical track.
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Old 08-03-2003, 11:44 PM   #2901
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u can mount ur shocks anyway u wan, as long as it works the way u wan, im running in a tight track as well. my front shocks are mounted on the bearing block, seems to turn better. i had my rear shocks on the lowest position on the rear shock tower. but remember, if u mount ur rear shocks on the bearing block, the springs might not be long enuff to give u the ride height u desire. u can get the veteq springs which are longer but softer or u can put the plastic clip (sorry, duno the proper name for tat) onto the shocks.
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Old 08-03-2003, 11:52 PM   #2902
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I have both my front & rear mounted on the bearing block but
feels theres understeer. Jus tryin to find a better alternative....
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Old 08-04-2003, 12:33 AM   #2903
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If i have the front shocks stood up, must the smae be applied on the rear. Me running on tight technical track.
If you need the rear to roll a little more for added traction, why not?

All in all, it depends on your car setup. More stood up rear shocks will make the rear react better but at the expense of rear traction. Less rear traction can mean more steering.

I believe on power steering can increase when the rear shocks are stood up.
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Old 08-04-2003, 12:34 AM   #2904
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I have both my front & rear mounted on the bearing block but
feels theres understeer. Jus tryin to find a better alternative....
How does the car understeer? Off power going into corners or On power out of the corners?
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u can mount ur shocks anyway u wan, as long as it works the way u wan, im running in a tight track as well. my front shocks are mounted on the bearing block, seems to turn better. i had my rear shocks on the lowest position on the rear shock tower. but remember, if u mount ur rear shocks on the bearing block, the springs might not be long enuff to give u the ride height u desire. u can get the veteq springs which are longer but softer or u can put the plastic clip (sorry, duno the proper name for tat) onto the shocks.
How about using the pretension springs on the rear!
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Old 08-04-2003, 01:04 AM   #2906
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How about using the pretension springs on the rear!
What is the part number for these plastic clips you speak of
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How does the car understeer? Off power going into corners or On power out of the corners?
Its off power going into coners, on power not at all a problem.
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Its off power going into coners, on power not at all a problem.
What is your rear droop set at? You can try increasing it a little (lower numbers on the scale). If say you're at +7, try +5 or +6.

What you can also do is to decrease your caster. Try shuffling and shift the caster clips one at the time towards the rear of the front upper arms. The 3 caster clips for each arm are 4 mm, 2 mm and 1 mm. This will give you more off power steering at the expense of on power steering out of the corner. So you should set it to a balance.
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u can try increase ur rear droop (eg. droop = +4 or +5)


the clips i tok abt r those tat adjust the hardness of the springs, sorry i cant find any better pics below eg
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Old 08-04-2003, 01:28 AM   #2910
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How about using the pretension springs on the rear!
Yes you can
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