Mugen MRX6
#1171
Nice build Man!
Just a few thoughts from your pics.
1) you may want to even up those rear upper arm turnbuckles to get even engagement.(stronger)
2) Any reason you didn't use the o-rings on your brake linkage? I really like how Mugen does this. It makes it easy to adjust the length of the damper effect in addition to the knob (missing)
3) Speaking of linkage, there should be a threaded knob on the end of the brake linkage to adjust drag brake.
4) You may want to turn one of your rear axles 180deg to be in the same position as the other. (easier for tire removal when changing in the heat of a race)
You will love this car... It's IMO the best overall kit out there.
Cheers!
Just a few thoughts from your pics.
1) you may want to even up those rear upper arm turnbuckles to get even engagement.(stronger)
2) Any reason you didn't use the o-rings on your brake linkage? I really like how Mugen does this. It makes it easy to adjust the length of the damper effect in addition to the knob (missing)
3) Speaking of linkage, there should be a threaded knob on the end of the brake linkage to adjust drag brake.
4) You may want to turn one of your rear axles 180deg to be in the same position as the other. (easier for tire removal when changing in the heat of a race)
You will love this car... It's IMO the best overall kit out there.
Cheers!
I did put in the hudy scales after these pics, that's why the rear looks a bit off.
Can't wait to test, especially with the the new pitch in the two speed.
#1172
Tech Rookie
the 0.8 pitch may not be as durable as the 1.0. i have seen my friend with the capricon some years ago, he was stripping the gear all the time. he is not a new guy to 1/8, he could afford to buy parts(he spent), but he finally moved to mugen.
as the latest 5 or even 6 may have more "flexibility" in the chassis, i would doubt using the 0.8
as the latest 5 or even 6 may have more "flexibility" in the chassis, i would doubt using the 0.8
#1173
Tech Apprentice
seven rings work great! i added some and the braking is super smooth.
#1174
Tech Apprentice
Mugen has used the same rear shaft parts so you don't have to go to 0.8 or you can always go back to 1.0 . Since the GT car is using 1.0 im guessing they ll be here for a long time.
#1175
Tech Elite
iTrader: (11)
the 0.8 pitch may not be as durable as the 1.0. i have seen my friend with the capricon some years ago, he was stripping the gear all the time. he is not a new guy to 1/8, he could afford to buy parts(he spent), but he finally moved to mugen.
as the latest 5 or even 6 may have more "flexibility" in the chassis, i would doubt using the 0.8
as the latest 5 or even 6 may have more "flexibility" in the chassis, i would doubt using the 0.8
Panda
#1176
Tech Elite
iTrader: (28)
The older Capricorn 0.8 module gears and the current Mugen 0.8 module gears are like comparing apples to oranges. I have driven the 0.8 mod gears now for the last five weekends (10 days of running). Not one stripped gear. You have to be more careful on your gear mesh with the 0.8 to make sure you only have a small gap so the spur and pinion gears are not binding. My friend (who also has the 6x with 0.8 mod gears and has had no problem) stripped the spur on his electric Mugen conversion using the 1.0 mod gear. Reason ? Too much gap. If people are stripping 0.8 mod Mugen gears, it is probably because they have to much gap in the gear mesh and not because of the gears.
Panda
Panda
Loose motor mounts, flex in the chassis, etc are issues as well. I too have had zero 0.8 spur failures on my 6X.
#1177
Just a follow up on the 6X. I've taken it to the track a couple of times since I built it and I must say I like it more than the 6. The front upper a arm design is much more durable than the prior design, I've had a couple of brushes with the wall and have had no failures or breaks. Also the .8 gears have worked flawlessly, and provide more acceleration than I'm used to. Have not had the timer on the track to compare lap times however it does feel smoother and faster. Also the wine sound produced by the .8 gears is extremely satisfying! The one thing I can not stand and this goes for the 6 as well is how difficult it is to remove the rear sway bar, at least for me. Anyone have any tips?
#1178
Tech Elite
iTrader: (11)
Just a follow up on the 6X. I've taken it to the track a couple of times since I built it and I must say I like it more than the 6. The front upper a arm design is much more durable than the prior design, I've had a couple of brushes with the wall and have had no failures or breaks. Also the .8 gears have worked flawlessly, and provide more acceleration than I'm used to. Have not had the timer on the track to compare lap times however it does feel smoother and faster. Also the wine sound produced by the .8 gears is extremely satisfying! The one thing I can not stand and this goes for the 6 as well is how difficult it is to remove the rear sway bar, at least for me. Anyone have any tips?
Panda
#1179
Nice...
#1180
So is the final verdict the MRX6X has lowered your lap times over the MRX6R ? If so by how much .....
#1181
Tech Elite
iTrader: (28)
It's basically the same car as the 6r with some refinements that improve reliability and some performance gains. How can anyone quantify a difference in lap times when so many other factors come into play at a given day and time? (such as grip, track and ambient temperature, engine, engine tune, pipe, clutch, 2 speed, tires, etc.) That's not the point of running one over the other. The real question should be, "is the car more consistent and easier to find the best setup for the current track conditions?" Lap times are irrelevant when comparing one chassis to another although it is a factor in the entire equation of comparison. Lower lap times are one of the goals, obviously but fastest lap times don't necessarily result in a win. Both are great cars and if you were buying a new car, go with the 6X. If you are looking to switch, pick up the conversion kit and see what the new components have to offer at your track. If you are looking to save a few bucks, the 6r is a great bargain. The 6X front end gives you better reliability of the dual pillow ball knuckles and aluminum bearing inserts while providing the tuning option of inline and trailing axle positions. The rear changes add strength and reduced angular flex of the upper links. (for reliability and consistency) There are some slight changes in shock positions that provide more tuning options and refinement of performance under certain conditions. Many changes cater to tracks like SCS which are high grip and smooth. You may not see a performance gain on other tracks due to these changes. Good luck in your racing en devour!
#1182
The main factor is that it is a fresh builded car. If you did build a new 6R then you would also be faster because with a new car the play and flex is very limited and all is as straight as possible.
#1183
It's basically the same car as the 6r with some refinements that improve reliability and some performance gains. How can anyone quantify a difference in lap times when so many other factors come into play at a given day and time? (such as grip, track and ambient temperature, engine, engine tune, pipe, clutch, 2 speed, tires, etc.) That's not the point of running one over the other. The real question should be, "is the car more consistent and easier to find the best setup for the current track conditions?" Lap times are irrelevant when comparing one chassis to another although it is a factor in the entire equation of comparison. Lower lap times are one of the goals, obviously but fastest lap times don't necessarily result in a win. Both are great cars and if you were buying a new car, go with the 6X. If you are looking to switch, pick up the conversion kit and see what the new components have to offer at your track. If you are looking to save a few bucks, the 6r is a great bargain. The 6X front end gives you better reliability of the dual pillow ball knuckles and aluminum bearing inserts while providing the tuning option of inline and trailing axle positions. The rear changes add strength and reduced angular flex of the upper links. (for reliability and consistency) There are some slight changes in shock positions that provide more tuning options and refinement of performance under certain conditions. Many changes cater to tracks like SCS which are high grip and smooth. You may not see a performance gain on other tracks due to these changes. Good luck in your racing en devour!
#1185
It's basically the same car as the 6r with some refinements that improve reliability and some performance gains. How can anyone quantify a difference in lap times when so many other factors come into play at a given day and time? (such as grip, track and ambient temperature, engine, engine tune, pipe, clutch, 2 speed, tires, etc.) That's not the point of running one over the other. The real question should be, "is the car more consistent and easier to find the best setup for the current track conditions?" Lap times are irrelevant when comparing one chassis to another although it is a factor in the entire equation of comparison. Lower lap times are one of the goals, obviously but fastest lap times don't necessarily result in a win. Both are great cars and if you were buying a new car, go with the 6X. If you are looking to switch, pick up the conversion kit and see what the new components have to offer at your track. If you are looking to save a few bucks, the 6r is a great bargain. The 6X front end gives you better reliability of the dual pillow ball knuckles and aluminum bearing inserts while providing the tuning option of inline and trailing axle positions. The rear changes add strength and reduced angular flex of the upper links. (for reliability and consistency) There are some slight changes in shock positions that provide more tuning options and refinement of performance under certain conditions. Many changes cater to tracks like SCS which are high grip and smooth. You may not see a performance gain on other tracks due to these changes. Good luck in your racing en devour!