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Old 08-21-2014, 08:42 AM   #16
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The Capricorn, Mugen and Xray are all around the same quality. They all have their pro's and con's.

The Xray is a high quality car which is easy to work on and is easy to drive. However I think at the highest level the car isn't fast enough anymore. At last weeks Euros they weren't competitive and struggling all week.

The new Mugen looks very well designed and Mugen always has been known for their high quality cars.
Pietsch's Mugen looked awesome all week during the Euro's, it looked really easy to drive. In the last 2 minutes he broke the rear diff (plastic proto gears) which slowed him down a lot, otherwise he would have won it with a several lap advantage.

The Capricorn is a very high quality kit purely aimed at winning races. It's the lightest, highest spec car you can buy. Everyone who drives it is immediately faster compared to their old car.
Plus support is really good in the Netherlands, setups for all tracks are available.

All three cars have good parts support in the Netherlands.


I wouldn't suggest the new 748. I worked on one all week during the Euro's to support a 11 year old talent. The car has some major flaws and lacks overall quality if you ask me.
It needs various upgrades to be competitive, bringing the cost up to the same level as the kits listed above.
are you sure 748 need to upgrade to be competitive,for example.......
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The Capricorn, Mugen and Xray are all around the same quality. They all have their pro's and con's.

The Xray is a high quality car which is easy to work on and is easy to drive. However I think at the highest level the car isn't fast enough anymore. At last weeks Euros they weren't competitive and struggling all week.

The new Mugen looks very well designed and Mugen always has been known for their high quality cars.
Pietsch's Mugen looked awesome all week during the Euro's, it looked really easy to drive. In the last 2 minutes he broke the rear diff (plastic proto gears) which slowed him down a lot, otherwise he would have won it with a several lap advantage.

The Capricorn is a very high quality kit purely aimed at winning races. It's the lightest, highest spec car you can buy. Everyone who drives it is immediately faster compared to their old car.
Plus support is really good in the Netherlands, setups for all tracks are available.

All three cars have good parts support in the Netherlands.

I wouldn't suggest the new 748. I worked on one all week during the Euro's to support a 11 year old talent. The car has some major flaws and lacks overall quality if you ask me.
It needs various upgrades to be competitive, bringing the cost up to the same level as the kits listed above.
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Your suppose to try and be unbiased .

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The Capricorn, Mugen and Xray are all around the same quality. They all have their pro's and con's.

The Xray is a high quality car which is easy to work on and is easy to drive. However I think at the highest level the car isn't fast enough anymore. At last weeks Euros they weren't competitive and struggling all week.

The new Mugen looks very well designed and Mugen always has been known for their high quality cars.
Pietsch's Mugen looked awesome all week during the Euro's, it looked really easy to drive. In the last 2 minutes he broke the rear diff (plastic proto gears) which slowed him down a lot, otherwise he would have won it with a several lap advantage.

The Capricorn is a very high quality kit purely aimed at winning races. It's the lightest, highest spec car you can buy. Everyone who drives it is immediately faster compared to their old car.
Plus support is really good in the Netherlands, setups for all tracks are available.

All three cars have good parts support in the Netherlands.


I wouldn't suggest the new 748. I worked on one all week during the Euro's to support a 11 year old talent. The car has some major flaws and lacks overall quality if you ask me.
It needs various upgrades to be competitive, bringing the cost up to the same level as the kits listed above.
What you wrote about the 748 is utter rubbish. Sorry I have one and completely disagree. I know that is your view but there are several people now disagreeing with you!! Can you please back up your remarks with facts and examples of the flaws and must have upgrades?
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I like my 748 just fine. What flaws are you referring too?I haven't found any.
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Wow!! Smh...
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Well 748 has been sitting on my lap. I built it 1 week ago and patiently waiting for the race to come this weekend. So I've been staring at it grinning for the last week every night. Looking and looking again, I don't see any "major" flaws that you talked about. Every car has some pros and cons but I can't agree with you that it has such major flaws that it can't be recommended.
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I wouldn't suggest the new 748. It needs various upgrades to be competitive, bringing the cost up to the same level as the kits listed above.
Hahahahaha Daan men...better take back your words...
You got beaten today at the Dutch nationals by two "Box Stock" serpents.. (nickname: "de Natte Trix")
Black is the new red stuivers...

1: Serpent 748
2: Serpent 748
3: Muggen MTX6

Was a great race and a nice podium, very happy with my new 748 and nice results today.
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Remember that DS is the Crapicorn distributor in the Neatherlands...
If you're going to badmouth a product offer facts, not conjecture. It makes YOU and your product look bad...
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Dont take it to hard guys, it are only toy cars we are racing..
The Serpent and all other brands are all good, since the world champions all drive 1 second faster a lap, we can conclude that the cars aren`t the problem.

Just like all cars there are things that could be better, it`s a part of the hobby to make the car perfect. for the Serpent the Diffs need special attention, same goes for the bearing fittings on axles/diff housings etc.
Overall it`s a great and fast design.

Daan is one of the fastest drivers in the Netherlands, a skilled guy with lots of knowledge about chassis dynamics. In my opinion never about bashing a different brand, forums can be misleading.
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Remember that DS is the Crapicorn distributor in the Neatherlands...
If you're going to badmouth a product offer facts, not conjecture. It makes YOU and your product look bad...
Sounds to me DS helping an 11 year old with a Serpent says a little more about his integrity than you give him credit for. I doubt anything said on RC tech changes the fact the Capricorn is the best chassis.

There's always going to be factors outside the engineering of the model that make one chassis better than the other, specially when there are so many good chassis on the market.

The best chassis is the one you like most and has the best support.

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Sounds to me DS helping an 11 year old with a Serpent says a little more about his integrity than you give him credit for. I doubt anything said on RC tech changes the fact the Capricorn is the best chassis.

There's always going to be factors outside the engineering of the model that make one chassis better than the other, specially when there are so many good chassis on the market.

The best chassis is the one you like most and has the best support.

Favourite quote from Euros..
It may be the best chassis to you, but not everyone may share your opinon, and I can respect that. What I cant respect is someone singling out a brand.
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It may be the best chassis to you, but not everyone may share your opinon, and I can respect that. What I cant respect is someone singling out a brand.
A tough week with the hopes of an 11 year old would probably have something to do with it.

Lots of fast serpents in our neck of the woods, always liked what I saw, I was about to go for a 733 and at that time, there was a list of upgrades required. I liked the innovation in the Serpent, credit where credit is due, 747 has a strong following downunder and it's backed up with great support and there are a lot of top drivers, not just in speed but also in support of the product. Personally, yes I have preference to the Capricorn, for its reliability v performance.

I'm happy Mugen is back in the mix with the 6, Shepherds are strong in EU but all support died in Au, it was a good car but needed lots of loctite in 2010. It's surprising how few XRAYs are running here in IC, but I think there's going to be a resurgence, it too is an awesome car, needs alloy bulkheads. I really think chassis development has come a long way across the manufacturers and the focus will be back on to engines and transmission in the coming years.
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I have a pair of MTX6 cars ,but the 747 and 748 Serpents are an excellent choice .The Caps and Kyosho,Xray ae excellent choices too.You cant really go wrong with any of them,parts availability is key.Whats up Henry.
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All cars have issues... just pick on that you think is best for your own reasons and enjoy it. Sure as eggs you will have someone walk up to you and tell you are dickhead for making that choice or doing that.

News flash: They are toy cars!!!!
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