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Old 09-12-2005, 12:01 PM   #646
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Have you tried it? Let me know because I didn't and I want to know more opinion from people who already tried it
I usually always run a 7.5 - 8mm restrictor, in a modified engine to improve fuel mileage and make the car smoother...it has very little effect on the top end...In a video by Ron Paris, he said that the purpose of restrictors is to improve fule mileage and smooth-out the bottem end, very little effect to the top speed....he also said that too small of a restrictor will damage the engine as the setting would have to be too lean to make enough power at the bottem end...

I do not see how running a very small carb restrictor is going to benefit a SPEC class...we want to keep the racing as competitive as possible, not make a class where no one can get out of each others way...that will surely lead to the death of the class
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Old 09-12-2005, 12:03 PM   #647
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C'mon...I wouldn't go so far to make this outlandish statement...lets get real here.

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of course its true......we all drive with too much HP
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Old 09-12-2005, 12:04 PM   #648
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Too much power? Ummmm NEVER!!!!
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more power than one can handle maybe ?
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Old 09-12-2005, 12:53 PM   #650
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I do not see how running a very small carb restrictor is going to benefit a SPEC class...we want to keep the racing as competitive as possible, not make a class where no one can get out of each others way...that will surely lead to the death of the class
I see, then we will still have difference on power.
I'm not interested on it, sorry. I'm out.
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Man.....this is starting to crack me up!!!
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Old 09-12-2005, 01:33 PM   #652
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Is that true? Are you really getting Daniel's car?......lol
LMAO.....lol..lol...lol thats was to funny Walter I almost fell out of my chair when I read this.
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Old 09-12-2005, 01:46 PM   #653
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Dino is right!!!!
Limiting engine is not an answer to increase popularity. Put stock engine basecaly will not do anything. There is stock Novarossi 21 Plus3, stock JP FX 21, stock MEGA, stock L.Collary etc. Everything which comercialy available can be easy concidering as stock. So how can be determinated which one is really stock.
Another thing is, as Dino mentioned, if some guys already have fast motor and to attend that race, racers will need to spend more money to get one more, non really competitive, engine-I doubt anybody will do it.
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Edward seems like you are missing the point, this class will be designed for people who are looking to cut cost anywhere they can.
If anyone has a problem in the direction this class is going SIMPLY DON'T RACE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!...... maybe it's not for, if so that's ok but don't slam it because you don't agree, state your reasons and simply move on.
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"AND YES ALL MODIFY EGINES ARE OUT, INCLUDING CRANKS THAT DID NOT COME WITH THE ENGINE WHEN IT WAS PURCHASED"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm also thinking of including a $300.00 disclaimer, you will be able to put up $300.00 if you want to protest someone's engine.
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ALL CHEATERS BEWARE YOU'RE A PUNK IF YOU CHEAT IN THIS CLASS, IF CAUGHT YOU WILL BE TO LEAVE THE TRACK WHERE THE RACE IS HELD AND NEVER RETURN.
NO ACEPTIONS.
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Old 09-12-2005, 01:57 PM   #657
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I spoke with DANA yesterday about SPEC Class and he told me that they tried to use and spec engine before, but it didn't work. What really worked was the restrictor in the carburator, he knows that using a 4mm restrictor on the carb will give the same power to everybody and will not overheat the engine. they tried it long time ago in a class called Super Stock (not sure about the name)
I will support the idea of the restrictors, it make sense to me that if all the carbs are getting the same amount of fuel, no matter what motor and how much you did modify it, it will have the same amount of fuel inside, then the same power.
I will at least give it a try
Hello Walter
You're a nice guy but Dana's ideal will benefit no one but Dana he's missing the point we are not trying to slow you down to a crawl were just trying to save you money, so with that said we will not be going in the direction of what Dana wants.
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:40 PM   #658
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Just a comment.
We had 63 racers, yesterday, at our club race. Broken down as:
Outlaw: 6
1/8th Sportsman: 23
1/8th Open: 34

We were surprised by the numbers. The RAMS are seeing many "new" faces since we started our "Sportsman" class. No limits/restrictions, as mentioned before, the sportsman class is by choice.

Honestly, the areas that are promoting series or some "unique" classes, are doing well - areas that aren't don't seem to be flourishing. It would be nice to hear from Texas/Colorado/Pacific Nortwst and Florida.

It will be interesting to see if the "motor" concept works.
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I heard that in Texas they are running a class similar to our SPEC proposal with great success...they run 5-port off-road engine and take it one step further with controlled fuel.

They do not call the class a "SPEC" class...instead just 1/8th and those drivers running modified engines sign up for the "OPEN" class...This takes away the perceived negative stigmatism created when you call it a "SPEC" class...

Someone earlier used the term "1/8th STOCK" , perhaps that makes more sense...I did ask for some feeback from the guys in CO...when I spoke with a few guys at the GLC, they commented that they run a SPEC engine is a few of their club races with success as well.
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not sure if this works but check this out...a photo of a new permant on-road track in CT...an hour north of NYC....I"M SO HAPPY

http://www.barcarc.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=72

scroll down to the middle of the page....
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