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Old 03-17-2014, 04:55 AM   #1
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I race nitro sedan, and I'm under the impression the fastest car is a car that traction rolls every now and then. My setups are very conservative, more on the safe side being easy to drive and sometimes a little pushy.
Is the fastest car on the edge of traction roll every turn?
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I guess my setup would be similar to yours. I have mine setup to be easy and consistent to drive. I can't stand a car that goes around the track like a pinball.
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Interesting thread question .... and one which will be of course open to many opinions.
My view on it is this....

If you are out to race, I mean to race is to try to win.
Then the stop watch rules. Nothing else matters.
There faster car will be the one which is slightly loose, stiff and will turn on a dime!
So the impression that its on a knife edge is understandable.
Alot of traction roll can be caught through driving skill, so a car on the limit of traction rolling will have the ability to corner faster.
I say the "ability to ..... " because it may not be taken advantage of by the driver.
All this also depends on the equal driver ability from car to car.

I'll be interested to see the replies to this thread.

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Interesting thread question .... and one which will be of course open to many opinions.
My view on it is this....

If you are out to race, I mean to race is to try to win.
Then the stop watch rules. Nothing else matters.
There faster car will be the one which is slightly loose, stiff and will turn on a dime!
So the impression that its on a knife edge is understandable.
Alot of traction roll can be caught through driving skill, so a car on the limit of traction rolling will have the ability to corner faster.
I say the "ability to ..... " because it may not be taken advantage of by the driver.
All this also depends on the equal driver ability from car to car.

I'll be interested to see the replies to this thread.

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My car is always fastest when its on edge, and if I get excited it rolls. But if im consistent enough and don't throw it into the corner it stays on 4 wheels.
The reason I asked the question is to get as many different opinions as I can. And not being car specific.
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:33 AM   #5
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I think alot of people hate driving a car like this though.... and it can be stressful, even hard work to drive a car set up in this manner.
But in my opinion, its a faster car.

The pushy car, or a car which rolls excessively will be much easier to drive and may also be the type of set up beginners/ even intermediate drivers need to have to drive consistently and to finish races. But I don't think they are the faster car set-up.

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I'd definitely agree. I do like a car that will rotate well but maintains an element of stability which is often a difficult balance to achieve! I usually setup the car to find the steering qualities I need from the rear of the car and then look for the stability quality from the front of the car.

For sure an 'edgy' car tends to be quicker over one or two laps because consistency is difficult for the average racer. Sometimes that more conservative stable setup can actually be quicker over the course of a full 5 minute run because you make less mistakes. One traction roll of the 'edgy' car and its benefit of being faster is immediately lost (and some)...

Just my thoughts and I too will be interested to see how this thread develops!
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Interesting thread question .... and one which will be of course open to many opinions.
My view on it is this....

If you are out to race, I mean to race is to try to win.
Then the stop watch rules. Nothing else matters.
There faster car will be the one which is slightly loose, stiff and will turn on a dime!
So the impression that its on a knife edge is understandable.
Alot of traction roll can be caught through driving skill, so a car on the limit of traction rolling will have the ability to corner faster.
I say the "ability to ..... " because it may not be taken advantage of by the driver.
All this also depends on the equal driver ability from car to car.

I'll be interested to see the replies to this thread.

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I think alot of people hate driving a car like this though.... and it can be stressful, even hard work to drive a car set up in this manner.
But in my opinion, its a faster car.

The pushy car, or a car which rolls excessively will be much easier to drive and may also be the type of set up beginners/ even intermediate drivers need to have to drive consistently and to finish races. But I don't think they are the faster car set-up.

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Could not have said it any better myself! My cars are setup the same way, IMO steering is where the lap times get faster, if you have to wait at all for your car to turn in or in the turn you are losing time. The faster you can get back on the throttle is where speed comes from.
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