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Old 07-14-2005, 10:25 AM   #16
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I mounted the throttle servo on the bottom side of the top deck. It required a relief cut on the chassis to get clearance, so there was a visit to a machine shop to do that. Both the Parma and Serpent bodies fit my car without the problems mentioned here. Oh, I also took a spoon and with heat from a cigarette lighter, dimpled the body above the top shock mounts to get clearance there. I have used those upper shock mounting holes. I know I have made an engineering project out of this, but that is what I did. I also used a 1 mm washer on the bottom of the front shock to space the shock away from the drive shaft. No problems there.

Spoon and lighter.........very clever idea, really, I always want to know how to POP something to the body without breaking it, but never thought of SPOON..............thanks.
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To much steer travel will make an understeering car worse or can cause understeer.I have not had an understeer on turnin problem with this car at all.Only problem I have had is on power mid to corner exit push that is easily corrected by setup changes
Trashcar....are you active at MWS...? I saw you from Hamilton....and wondering will I be able to meet you at one of the MWS especially the one at Hamilton (I think that is Sepetember race...)

Just wondering to see some active 835/impact racer....
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The Parma Lola body was made before the 835 car was released. The Shock tower on the 835 was made for Touring car bodies for extra tuning. I raced the 835 for 2 years at all types of different tracks and never had to stand the shocks up. Once you get a base setup the car works awesome at all tracks with minor changes. The guys on this forum can really help you get the car setup and also Mytsn has alot of Info as well about tracks and car setup. If you have never drove a 835 it is one of the most balanced race cars out there. If you need any help please feel free to E-mail me.

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Old 07-14-2005, 12:01 PM   #19
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The Parma Lola body was made before the 835 car was released. The Shock tower on the 835 was made for Touring car bodies for extra tuning. I raced the 835 for 2 years at all types of different tracks and never had to stand the shocks up. Once you get a base setup the car works awesome at all tracks with minor changes. The guys on this forum can really help you get the car setup and also Mytsn has alot of Info as well about tracks and car setup. If you have never drove a 835 it is one of the most balanced race cars out there. If you need any help please feel free to E-mail me.

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Since you are from Parma, just wondering, why Parma LOLA body (from 1/10 pan to 1/12 and this 1/10 GAS type) both side of the body, after cutted, will CURVED outward........instead of straigh down like Serpent bodies does...?

I am sure it does not make a lot of performance differences, however, that does not look too good afterall.....just really wondering.
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Hi Kelley. I am using the Impact M2 WC2002 edition in this class. Do you believe I will experience a performance gain by using the 835 instead of the M2?
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Trashcar....are you active at MWS...? I saw you from Hamilton....and wondering will I be able to meet you at one of the MWS especially the one at Hamilton (I think that is Sepetember race...)

Just wondering to see some active 835/impact racer....
Just jumping in here, not intending to preempt Trashcar from replying to your question. I run in the MWS at all the races except the one in Detroit. The Hamilton track is one that I frequent very regularly as well as the track in Toledo. I am available for any questions you may have related to racing these cars in the MWS.
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Old 07-14-2005, 12:57 PM   #22
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See you in Cinci. Hey David I was going to refer these guys to Ron Coleman or is that a BAD idea?
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Wow, several hours and so many good replies. Very interesting, all of them.

Now it all starts to make sense. I guess the conslusion for me is that based on everybody's experience the shock tower can be made low single mount period (I am just hesitant to do it without actually trying it on the tracks I go to..). That will solve the front for any lola body out there. I didn't think of mounting the servo to the bottom of the radio plate. As long as I don't have to machine anything out I would do it right away assuming there will be no other binding which would require plate cutting etc. I just don't like to compromise original designs if it's not necessary.

I noticed the same thing RS did. Once you cut the Parma body out the back lines (at least in my case) will bow out kind of. Not over the board, but if you look down the side line facing the front of the car you can notice it. First, I thought it's because all the tightness and rubbing I wrote about before, before obviously that's not the reason.


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p.s. davidl, great tip with the spoon, I've got to try it one day.....
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Hello Guys,

Hello David,
I would keep running the Impact unless you can find a 835 cheap. You are doing really well with the impact. To me the Impact is still a competitve car. I did feel like the 835 was a little more aggresive and I could turn faster lap times with it. I think the 835 car was better balanced from front to rear and also the Battery pack is lower and weighs less because of the smaller cells. If the MWS series keeps on racing the 235 class I think it would be a good upgrade.

Hello Solara,

The reason why some of the molds do that is because they have different materials on them. The molds heat and cool differently when a body is pulled over them.

I hope that helps,
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Just jumping in here, not intending to preempt Trashcar from replying to your question. I run in the MWS at all the races except the one in Detroit. The Hamilton track is one that I frequent very regularly as well as the track in Toledo. I am available for any questions you may have related to racing these cars in the MWS.
David...very nice to meet you, I am not new to Impact or 835 (own both cars for 2 and 4 years plus) but defintiely new to Hamilton and 1/8th racing track.....hope you will be in Chicago in August and we can talk more about 235mm class.......however, if you also race 1/8th, that, I will need a lot of help, I have a 950R that I am planning to run at MWS, new to 1/8th and new to 950R.....

Currently, I am running the same car as yours WC02....just too lazy to put the 835 together when the IMPACT M2 is just as fast as those outlaw 200mm with LOLA.......I can share my option about IMPACT VS 835....I cannot tell 835 is a STEP ahead of IMPACT.....but it has the CENTAX 2 instead of Centax 1....that might be the little advantage.
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Mxs,

It all depend on what servo you have if you need to do this. It will take some time but you can easily mount your servo under the tray. All you need is a dremel with a new sanding drum and a Sharpie pen. leave the front end on the car and the tray brace. Remove the rear end and the engine and fuel tank. Set the radio tray on the car with the servo already mounted on the bottom of the tray with the rubber bushing and everything. Line all holes up and take the sharpie and mark where the servo hit the chassis also look at the side of the chassis and see how far you think you need to cut into it. Put a line on the edge of the chassis so you do not sand down to far. Cover all exposed pieces with a paper towel so no aluminum dust gets on anything. And slowly start sanding away the chassis till you reach the depth and width. Please make sure the servo does not hit the chassis from side to side when you are finished. That can cause radio interference and greatly shorten the Servo's Life. Reassemble everthing and you should be good to go.

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Thanks Kelly. I'll check it out, but right now I am just drooling to give the car some first laps. Broke the engine in last week, just need to paint the body and off we go.... can't wait.

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Hello David,
I would keep running the Impact unless you can find a 835 cheap. You are doing really well with the impact. To me the Impact is still a competitve car. I did feel like the 835 was a little more aggresive and I could turn faster lap times with it. I think the 835 car was better balanced from front to rear and also the Battery pack is lower and weighs less because of the smaller cells. If the MWS series keeps on racing the 235 class I think it would be a good upgrade.

Kelley, thanks for your comments. I had a difficult time at the last race in Racine. I could run some serious laps and was super consistent, but I couldn't pass one of the front runners after I caught him. I got around during the second pit sequence and that was it. I have a couple 835's sitting in the wings and just wondered if it is time to pull them out. I am not sure I need a car that is more aggressive, but your comment about balance from front to rear catches my attention. Will the balance you mentioned turn into faster cornering speed? I already have been using a 2 speed system from the 835 on my M2. It is very efficient, but I haven't been able to determine if it has helped my performance.
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David..do you mind to share what shore of foams are you running at Racine and Ohio..? 35 F and R...? Thanks, cause I have to start glueing all those foams and start truing them....too many donuts around but don't have enough rims.
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RS:

I thought you are not using donuts, because it's too messy and not really that much cheaper....

Can you share where to get them and how exactly you do it?

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