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Old 08-05-2008, 02:22 PM   #3016
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Just OS2 from my understanding. I also asked about the alloy radio tray support with brass weight and V3 Rear shock tower, as Serpent stated they would be in future kits, and mine didn't have them and came from them after that announcement. I was told kits won't have these parts in for a few months. They should really state that on their web site.
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So for awhile the US kits were coming in with both OS1 adn OS2 parts, now just the OS2?
Yes, the latest kits only comes with OS2.


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Just OS2 from my understanding. I also asked about the alloy radio tray support with brass weight and V3 Rear shock tower, as Serpent stated they would be in future kits, and mine didn't have them and came from them after that announcement. I was told kits won't have these parts in for a few months. They should really state that on their web site.
They did say in the "FUTURE" kits, not current kits.
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Old 08-05-2008, 03:16 PM   #3018
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I call future kits, any kits leaving Serpent after that announcement. Current kits are kits that are already out at dealers. Mine was not at a dealer, it left Serpent after the announcement, so should have those parts. I'm not that worried, but am alittle disappointed I didn't get those new parts.
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I call future kits, any kits leaving Serpent after that announcement. Current kits are kits that are already out at dealers. Mine was not at a dealer, it left Serpent after the announcement, so should have those parts. I'm not that worried, but am alittle disappointed I didn't get those new parts.
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Old 08-05-2008, 04:52 PM   #3020
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Thanks guys. The car was really awesome. By the end of the weekend I had my car working really well. My set up is quit different than I think most others. By the time I was done I had this.

front

short wheel base
2mm castor in front of arms
1 hole piston with 35wt oil and new green springs upper position on new tower
+1 droop
-1 toe on each side
2 camber
just under full lock in the steering
33 twister tires 64mm (qual's)
252mm wheel base
sway bar flat

rear

6.5 droop
2.5 toe
3 camber
2 hole piston with 40wt oil and new blue springs and lower position on tower
camber links short and in middle position on hub
softer rear sway bar 45 degrees
35 twister tires 72mm (qual's)
262mm wheel base
body mount in upper position and 2nd hole from left at top

Notes:

I used the left stiffener without the back screw
I used the aluminum cross plat with the 50gram weight.
I used the new serpent body (not as twicky with the steering)
clutch with a Novarossi 359 (stock flyweights, red shoe, .6 gap with 1.8 serpent spring tighten to 1.5 and .2 end play)

My car was really easy to drive. Very consistent and safe, but fast. In the main it was easy to drive the same line and hit the mark each lap.

If I missed anything just ask.

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Old 08-05-2008, 05:17 PM   #3021
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Thanks guys. The car was really awesome. By the end of the weekend I had my car working really well. My set up is quit different than I think most others. By the time I was done I had this.

front

short wheel base
2mm castor in front of arms
1 hole piston with 35wt oil and new green springs upper position on new tower
+1 droop
-1 toe on each side
2 camber
just under full lock in the steering
33 twister tires 64mm (qual's)
252mm wheel base
sway bar flat

rear

6.5 droop
2.5 toe
3 camber
2 hole piston with 40wt oil and new blue springs and lower position on tower
camber links short and in middle position on hub
softer rear sway bar 45 degrees
35 twister tires 72mm (qual's)
262mm wheel base
body mount in upper position and 2nd hole from left at top

Notes:

I used the left stiffener without the back screw
I used the aluminum cross plat with the 50gram weight.
I used the new serpent body (not as twicky with the steering)
clutch with a Novarossi 359 (stock flyweights, red shoe, .6 gap with 1.8 serpent spring tighten to 1.5 and .2 end play)

My car was really easy to drive. Very consistent and safe, but fast. In the main it was easy to drive the same line and hit the mark each lap.

If I missed anything just ask.

Regards,

DJ Apolaro
Hi DJ,

Where did you set your front roll center?

Where did you set your rear lower hinge pins for rear roll center?

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Old 08-05-2008, 06:49 PM   #3022
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I had the front with 1 spacer under and the rear in the lower position.

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I had the front with 1 spacer under and the rear in the lower position.

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Old 08-05-2008, 11:14 PM   #3024
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Hello Serpent nation. Good Job Dj.
Well Nat's are around the corner. Im excited to get back out on the track and hang with all of you. My wife and 6 month old son Braden will be there. I have got busy this summer. I started a house painting business in Jan. Im excited for the week off.

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well done!!!!!!!!!!!bravo

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Yes, the latest kits only comes with OS2.




They did say in the "FUTURE" kits, not current kits.
Just replace the carbon bat / lipo strip with a brass plate of +/- 65 gramms for the time be´ng. It will do the job....
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Thanks guys. The car was really awesome. By the end of the weekend I had my car working really well. My set up is quit different than I think most others. By the time I was done I had this.

front

short wheel base
2mm castor in front of arms
1 hole piston with 35wt oil and new green springs upper position on new tower
+1 droop
-1 toe on each side
2 camber
just under full lock in the steering
33 twister tires 64mm (qual's)
252mm wheel base
sway bar flat

rear

6.5 droop
2.5 toe
3 camber
2 hole piston with 40wt oil and new blue springs and lower position on tower
camber links short and in middle position on hub
softer rear sway bar 45 degrees
35 twister tires 72mm (qual's)
262mm wheel base
body mount in upper position and 2nd hole from left at top

Notes:

I used the left stiffener without the back screw
I used the aluminum cross plat with the 50gram weight.
I used the new serpent body (not as twicky with the steering)
clutch with a Novarossi 359 (stock flyweights, red shoe, .6 gap with 1.8 serpent spring tighten to 1.5 and .2 end play)

My car was really easy to drive. Very consistent and safe, but fast. In the main it was easy to drive the same line and hit the mark each lap.

If I missed anything just ask.

Regards,

DJ Apolaro
DJ, Some remarks / questions:

Do you use centric or non centic inserts in your wheelblocks (FR), if non centric we drive droop=0.

Why do you use a FR sway bar? Its just weight Is it the Soft one?
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Old 08-06-2008, 07:44 AM   #3028
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well done!!!!!!!!!!!bravo

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Thanks,

Good luck at the Worlds.

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DJ, Some remarks / questions:

Do you use centric or non centic inserts in your wheelblocks (FR), if non centric we drive droop=0.

Why do you use a FR sway bar? Its just weight Is it the Soft one?
I used the ecentric inserts in the defualt positions. Yes soft sway bar.

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DJ, Some remarks / questions:


Why do you use a FR sway bar? Its just weight Is it the Soft one?
Why would one not use the sway bar?
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