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Old 03-30-2008, 09:31 AM   #2851
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The coating you speak of on some metal parts is specifically to protect them, Xray doesnt use this coating, but they include a material that absorbs moisture to avoid damage through shipping and whatever problems may arise from handling the kits.
Doesn't the plastic wrap do that?

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The bit about 50 outsources, i really dont see what you mean, all the materials are the same through with great consistency in the plastic as well as the aluminum materials used in the various upgrades that are included in the kit.
Honestly, there are like 3 colours bearings with the car (orange, black, grey), the front and rear pivot balls aren't even the same. A set of ball ends were thrown in, un-bagged. I ended up with 4 shims and no explanation what they do. One bag had a label that was so faded I could barely read it. Parts are de-treed (nice) but not de-burred (not nice). The kit looks kind of rushed to be honest. It seems the kit was not assembled in the Netherlands. Consistency seems a bit off.

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To help explain the front roll bar situation, Not everyone has a trick swaybar tool, but EVERYONE in the pit area has a tuning screwdriver. With this in mind, quick last minute adjustments to the swaybar can be done by ANYONE on the fly. Also with flathead slots on the sides of the roll bar, you can physically see the position which can allow for more accurate swaybar settings from left to right.
True, but how do I loosen the swaybar so I can adjust it? I use an allen screw driver, then a flathead to adjust it. Is it so hard to design a car where I can use the same screw driver to first loosen then adjust the rollbar? This needs a second look.

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The manuals have a seperate parts explosion which is nice and handy since visiting your local hobby store, all you need is a 2 page Reference guide with every part number on the car and an exploded view with part numbers listed there.
I've actually had this discussion with Rene Cornella and he pretty well said the same thing. My point is I can't see how it would hurt to add it to the manual. Even with the numbers in the manual, you'd still have the ref guide. I have a feeling few customers care though. If they did, the numbers would go in.


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Hey, buying that snapring tool is a great investment! Although its one job, its one job that may occur more than once!
I don't doubt you'd use it more than once. Maybe 3-4 times. It just seems like a pointless inefficiency. Is there really no other way to design the rear axle to get rid of this thing? If the entire car could be made with the same diameter screw, that'd be the ultimate

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I'm glad you received your kit though, one of the few fortunate ones I hope some of the explainations listed here help with your frustrations on the new kit!
Very happy with the kit. Wish I could post some photos but the site keeps saying 'Upload of file failed' even though the pictures are already under the noted limit. Anyone know how to fix this? Files are jpg, 153k.
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Old 03-30-2008, 09:38 AM   #2852
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The swaybar is adjusted on the fly, no need to loosen setscrew. It just bites the swaybar lightly enough to hold it in place, but you can still rotate the blades. Try it when you finish the car.

Plastic wrapping is vacuum sealed so you can never guarantee damage through corrosion and what not.

Different color bearings doesnt hurt, your still getting the same quality serpent bearing!

Pivot balls in the rear were updated, new material, new length, added strength. Be happy about these!

All the other manufacturers use the snapring, so even if you bought a mugen or a kyosho, youre going to need one!



But then again, as long as your happy with the kit, keeps a smile on my face too.
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Old 03-31-2008, 07:44 PM   #2853
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does anyone happen to have a receiver mounting bracket that goes on the belt side of the 960? I checked with ashford and he said he was not able to get one.
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Old 04-01-2008, 01:40 AM   #2854
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Check Kamikaze Toys and Hobbies, i think we have one.
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Old 04-01-2008, 02:23 AM   #2855
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Can anyone tell me or give me a link to the parts that come in the 960-07 to 08 upgrade kit?

A link or complete list would be great as I need to know if I need a new top deck & chassis or not?
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Does the 960 08 kit includes both the OS1 and OS2 wheel axles and knuckles?
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The chassis and top deck are the same as the 07 car! A few pages back Nigel posted a list of all the differences of the two! It is well worth the update guys! I know the kits are not as available as everyone would like, sometimes these things happen! The 08 car is the best car ive driven, and ive raced alot of cars! It is worth the wait!
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Conversion Serpent 960 07 to Serpent 960-08 OS1 front and rear
- The following parts are needed:
o 903252 Upgrade-set 960 to v08 OS1

Conversion Serpent 960 07 to Serpent 960-08 OS2
o 903252 Upgrade-set 960 to v08 OS1
o 903266 Wheel-axles FR OS2 (2)
o 903267 Lever alu/spring/pin OS2 FR (2)
o 903257 Upright OS2 (2)
o 903268 Wheel-axles RR OS2 (2)
o 903269 Lever alu/spring/pin OS2 RR (2)
o 903235 Shim 12x15x0.25 (10)

Conversion Serpent 960 07 to Serpent 960-08 OS1 front
o 903255 Upgrade-set front 08
o chassis LCG must be modifed with dremel a little, to create space for the fr anti-toll bar movement and setting

Conversion Serpent 960 07 to Serpent 960-08 OS2 front
o 903266 Wheel-axles FR OS2 (2)
o 903267 Lever alu/spring/pin OS2 FR (2)
o 903255 Upgrade-set front 08
o chassis LCG must be modifed with dremel a little, to create space for the fr anti-toll bar movement and setting
o 903235 Shim 12x15x0.25 (10)

Conversion Serpent 960 07 to Serpent 960-08 OS1 rear
o 903253 Upgrade-set OS1 rear

Conversion Serpent 960 07 to Serpent 960-08 OS2 rear
o 903254 Upgrade set OS2 rear
o 903268 Wheel-axles RR OS2 (2)
o 903269 Lever alu/spring/pin OS2 RR (2)

Conversion Serpent 960-08 from OS1 to OS2
- For the front the following parts are needed:
o 903266 Wheel-axles FR OS2 (2)
o 903267 Lever alu/spring/pin OS2 FR (2)
- For the rear the following parts are needed
o 903254 Upgrade set OS2 rear
o 903235 Shim 12x15x0.25 (10)

Upgrade kit are now in the US and should start showing up at shops late the week.
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Does the 960 08 kit includes both the OS1 and OS2 wheel axles and knuckles?
No it does not.
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What wheels are the stock, 08 kit fitted for the 0s1 or 0s2

What are the differences between the handling with the different wheels?
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Old 04-01-2008, 02:33 PM   #2861
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No it does not.
The USA version comes with both the OS1 and the OS2 plastic and axles so that the car can be built either way.
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Conversion Serpent 960 07 to Serpent 960-08 OS1 front and rear
- The following parts are needed:
o 903252 Upgrade-set 960 to v08 OS1

Conversion Serpent 960 07 to Serpent 960-08 OS2
o 903252 Upgrade-set 960 to v08 OS1
o 903266 Wheel-axles FR OS2 (2)
o 903267 Lever alu/spring/pin OS2 FR (2)
o 903257 Upright OS2 (2)
o 903268 Wheel-axles RR OS2 (2)
o 903269 Lever alu/spring/pin OS2 RR (2)
o 903235 Shim 12x15x0.25 (10)

Conversion Serpent 960 07 to Serpent 960-08 OS1 front
o 903255 Upgrade-set front 08
o chassis LCG must be modifed with dremel a little, to create space for the fr anti-toll bar movement and setting

Conversion Serpent 960 07 to Serpent 960-08 OS2 front
o 903266 Wheel-axles FR OS2 (2)
o 903267 Lever alu/spring/pin OS2 FR (2)
o 903255 Upgrade-set front 08
o chassis LCG must be modifed with dremel a little, to create space for the fr anti-toll bar movement and setting
o 903235 Shim 12x15x0.25 (10)

Conversion Serpent 960 07 to Serpent 960-08 OS1 rear
o 903253 Upgrade-set OS1 rear

Conversion Serpent 960 07 to Serpent 960-08 OS2 rear
o 903254 Upgrade set OS2 rear
o 903268 Wheel-axles RR OS2 (2)
o 903269 Lever alu/spring/pin OS2 RR (2)

Conversion Serpent 960-08 from OS1 to OS2
- For the front the following parts are needed:
o 903266 Wheel-axles FR OS2 (2)
o 903267 Lever alu/spring/pin OS2 FR (2)
- For the rear the following parts are needed
o 903254 Upgrade set OS2 rear
o 903235 Shim 12x15x0.25 (10)

Upgrade kit are now in the US and should start showing up at shops late the week.
How come a 960-07 needs the rear axle and lever and the 960-08 doesn't to convert to OS2?

I'll end up with a 960-08 with only OS1, so am wanting to check what I need for OS2.
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Car is almost finished now. I'll post a few highlights others might find helpful. Found these 3Racing Ti turnbuckles at almost the exactly same length as the Serpent ones (they are slightly thicker than the Serpent but I had no problems). I guess time will tell if the quality is similar as well.
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How come a 960-07 needs the rear axle and lever and the 960-08 doesn't to convert to OS2?

I'll end up with a 960-08 with only OS1, so am wanting to check what I need for OS2.
In order for you to convert your 08' 960 OS1 to OS2, all you need is:
1 x 903257 = OS2 rear upright
1 x 903266 = Front Wheel axle
1 x 903267 = Front quick release lever kit
1 x 903268 = Rear wheel axle
1 x 903269 = Rear quick release lever kit
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In order for you to convert your 08' 960 OS1 to OS2, all you need is:
1 x 903257 = OS2 rear upright
1 x 903266 = Front Wheel axle
1 x 903267 = Front quick release lever kit
1 x 903268 = Rear wheel axle
1 x 903269 = Rear quick release lever kit
Thats what I thought. I presume they all come in pairs.

Will Serpent be making OS2 wheels or will we have to buy them from other manufacturers? I presume a set of OS1 wheels comes with the kit as a set did with my original 960.

I heard Serpent have a pile of kits ready to ship, except for one part, the rear axle. Apparently ready to go in about 2-3 weeks.
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