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Old 08-08-2006, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Racer Z
The 960 seems to rotate thru the corners better with the lipo but give me a nervous feeling like the car is about to become unglued. I like the 5 cells better. Car feels more planted and stable thru all areas of the track. Just my 2 cents
I find this to be true with other cars I've owned as well. My MTX-4 for sure and my MRX-4 also. Car does feel more planted although lap times don't seem to be any different.
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Old 08-09-2006, 12:06 AM
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Old 08-13-2006, 09:52 PM
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Here's a new body for you guys..

http://www.mytsn.com/products/product.asp?prid=4343
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Old 08-13-2006, 10:01 PM
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I'll have the new body in stock soon

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Old 08-13-2006, 10:12 PM
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yep cool body, we will have it Monday I believe.
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Old 08-13-2006, 10:40 PM
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HEY NIGEL TONY SAID YOU WERE DOING THE DAMN THANG TODAY WITH THE 960 @ REV KEEP IT UP BRO
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I got the new body in stock
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Old 08-14-2006, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FASRICK
HEY NIGEL TONY SAID YOU WERE DOING THE DAMN THANG TODAY WITH THE 960 @ REV KEEP IT UP BRO

fsho fsho fsho mang!

Well, with my first weekend out with the car, i decided to club race at Revelation Raceway here in Ontario, CA (www.revrace.com). I had used a setup given to me by everyone's favorite, Chris Verano. At first, the traction was incredibly high and caught me off guard, i only had enough time for 2 laps of practice. The setup was great, but i was VERY very limited on tires. I used 40's, but obviously they were too soft for our track. I decided to keep the setup, and just cut the tires. Although i over did the cut and the car was pushing. With all the misfortunes of this previous weekend (sunday the 13th), i still managed to end up in the 3rd position by the end of the race! All i can say is, the car is AMAZING!

Anyway, here is the setup i ended up using for this weekend to start with at revelation raceway!

Front:
Spring: Red
Shock Oil: 45wt
Shock position: upper
Upper Arm position: Inner (used alum upper arm mount)
Wheelbase: 4mm behind lower arm
Caster: 7mm in front
Tire: 40sh With 2 grooves 3mm wide (this is where i messed up, shouldve been only one 3mm groove)
Tire Size: starting @ 68
Front Toe: Toe out 1degree
Front Camber: 1.5degree
Roll center: 0mm under
Sway bar: 90degrees
Droop: 2mm
Ride Height: 7mm

Rear
Spring: Red
Shock Oil 45wt
Shock position: lowest
Upper arm position: Outer
Tire: 40sh
Tire size: starting @ 74
Body Mount position: 2nd hole from bottom
Sway Bar: 0 degrees (flat)
Sway bar mount on arm: Outer
Camber: 3.5degrees
Toe: 2.5degrees
Ride Height:7.5mm

Gearing: stock except for 1st gear spur @ 50T
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Old 08-15-2006, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by nigelnuggets
fsho fsho fsho mang!

Well, with my first weekend out with the car, i decided to club race at Revelation Raceway here in Ontario, CA (www.revrace.com). I had used a setup given to me by everyone's favorite, Chris Verano. At first, the traction was incredibly high and caught me off guard, i only had enough time for 2 laps of practice. The setup was great, but i was VERY very limited on tires. I used 40's, but obviously they were too soft for our track. I decided to keep the setup, and just cut the tires. Although i over did the cut and the car was pushing. With all the misfortunes of this previous weekend (sunday the 13th), i still managed to end up in the 3rd position by the end of the race! All i can say is, the car is AMAZING!

Anyway, here is the setup i ended up using for this weekend to start with at revelation raceway!

Front:
Spring: Red
Shock Oil: 45wt
Shock position: upper
Upper Arm position: Inner (used alum upper arm mount)
Wheelbase: 4mm behind lower arm
Caster: 7mm in front
Tire: 40sh With 2 grooves 3mm wide (this is where i messed up, shouldve been only one 3mm groove)
Tire Size: starting @ 68
Front Toe: Toe out 1degree
Front Camber: 1.5degree
Roll center: 0mm under
Sway bar: 90degrees
Droop: 2mm
Ride Height: 7mm

Rear
Spring: Red
Shock Oil 45wt
Shock position: lowest
Upper arm position: Outer
Tire: 40sh
Tire size: starting @ 74
Body Mount position: 2nd hole from bottom
Sway Bar: 0 degrees (flat)
Sway bar mount on arm: Outer
Camber: 3.5degrees
Toe: 2.5degrees
Ride Height:7.5mm

Gearing: stock except for 1st gear spur @ 50T
Nigel,

Way to go my friend. Congrats!!! About the tires, don't worry. 42's and 45's are arriving at Serpent USA soon.

Paolo
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Old 08-15-2006, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by nigelnuggets
Well, with my first weekend out with the car, i decided to club race at Revelation Raceway here in Ontario, CA (www.revrace.com). I had used a setup given to me by everyone's favorite, Chris Verano. At first, the traction was incredibly high and caught me off guard, i only had enough time for 2 laps of practice. The setup was great, but i was VERY very limited on tires. I used 40's, but obviously they were too soft for our track. I decided to keep the setup, and just cut the tires. Although i over did the cut and the car was pushing. With all the misfortunes of this previous weekend (sunday the 13th), i still managed to end up in the 3rd position by the end of the race! All i can say is, the car is AMAZING!
Good job Nigel..

Are you and your dad coming out this Saturday?
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Old 08-15-2006, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Paolo M
Nigel,

Way to go my friend. Congrats!!! About the tires, don't worry. 42's and 45's are arriving at Serpent USA soon.

Paolo
Paolo,

How are you sir? Have not spoke to you in awhile.

Chris
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Old 08-15-2006, 08:38 AM
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OK, maybe someone can point me in the right direction here. I will list my current set-up. I have not been able to get enough steering (mostly concerned with entry & apex).
Front;
50wt (serpent oil) 3 holes/red springs
lower hole on tower
Sway bar disconnected
Dynamic caster set-up (this helped some, would have to post pics but it reduces caster as suspension is compressed).
35sh Serpent/Jaco
Short wheelbase helped, but had to go back to long for exhaust clearance.
0mm roll center spacers
Rear;
50wt. 2 holes/blue springs
Upper hole on tower
20 degrees or so sway bar
38sh Serpent/Jaco
middle roll center position for lower pins
I have adjusted toe & camber settings through the normal range.
I have also moved a bit of weight forward (1 once of lead to front of battery tray, LiPo battery behind the lead. Result is same weight as NiMh but slightly more forward).
The Jaco 38's test 2-3 points softer than the Jaco 35's! Will try 40 rear/35 front.
Any other ideas?
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Old 08-15-2006, 08:59 AM
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duneland, put the front swaybar back try 45. front shock mid. also try 1 mm
shim on front roll center this shoud give more steering at entry and mid corner

also try mounting the body a little more forward and less caster

on the rear a little more sway bar angle , ride ht 1 mm split between front and

rear( lower on front )
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Old 08-15-2006, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by C Verano
Good job Nigel..

Are you and your dad coming out this Saturday?
Hi Chris,
Miss me? LOL, Me and Nigel will be out there on Saturday night, Will go out there Thursday night too, to test out the new ride
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Old 08-15-2006, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by C Verano
Good job Nigel..

Are you and your dad coming out this Saturday?
Saturday FOR SURE!


i didnt go last saturday because i had that birthday party remember? gotta get my fix.
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Old 08-15-2006, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Paolo M
Nigel,

Way to go my friend. Congrats!!! About the tires, don't worry. 42's and 45's are arriving at Serpent USA soon.

Paolo

Thanks Paolo.

glad to hear about the tires!
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