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Old 10-04-2004, 07:02 PM   #14146
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so if there is no real change in running the .8 gears why make them? there has to be a difference in performance.
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so if there is no real change in running the .8 gears why make them? there has to be a difference in performance.

With trhe 0.8 gears you can get a finer gear change in the ratios. You can also get a greater top end and bottom end. That is why it is worth changing.
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just purchased a mtx-3 and just after some info on the roll center blocks in the rear for a low traction surface should i be using the "c" block. No matter wat ive done in the setup so far i'm close but the car seems really taily on direction change ie through a chicane. once this is sorted i will be on fire. any help appreciated
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just purchased a mtx-3 and just after some info on the roll center blocks in the rear for a low traction surface should i be using the "c" block. No matter wat ive done in the setup so far i'm close but the car seems really taily on direction change ie through a chicane. once this is sorted i will be on fire. any help appreciated

Yes you are right with the rear c blocks for low traction
rear diff oil also help 30,000 low to mid traction
50,000 for high traction
also try removing some of the shims from the top of the rear arms helps also
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Old 10-04-2004, 10:52 PM   #14150
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With trhe 0.8 gears you can get a finer gear change in the ratios. You can also get a greater top end and bottom end. That is why it is worth changing.

isn't that same as saying u'll be getting quarter or half a second faster than the 1.0 gear...
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Old 10-05-2004, 02:29 AM   #14151
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so if there is no real change in running the .8 gears why make them? there has to be a difference in performance.
To sell them to us suckers

I am not saying they are useless but I doubt you would get a benifit of half a second a lap.

Maybe somebody that has run both with the same setup and track conditions could give us some feedback
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Old 10-05-2004, 05:41 AM   #14152
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fine pitch versus normal pitch: the verdict.

normal gears due to the fact they have less teeth have a smaller, or should i say a sharper acceleration curve. what i mean by this is that power feels more "on, Off" with the coarse pitch gears.

witht he fine pitch gears due to the fact there are more teeth the curve of the power band from zero to full throttle is alot smoother. the fine pitch gears allow for a smoother acceleration and allows for a better top end and low end.

to give you an idea exagerate the situation. imagine a gear and pinion with 4 teeth. the power would be very mich "on off" due to the lack of gears touching and spinning each other.

fine pitch is like having a 6th gear in a real car (more teeth) coarse pitch is like having only 5th. ie due to one less gear, you have to shift more often and have a less smooth power band.
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To sell them to us suckers

I am not saying they are useless but I doubt you would get a benifit of half a second a lap.

Maybe somebody that has run both with the same setup and track conditions could give us some feedback
Why does Swagert use them? Because they are better! He has a choice on which ones to run, he chooses 0.8 not the coarse ones.
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Old 10-05-2004, 06:52 AM   #14154
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Hey feel free to use them, all I am saying is that dont expect to see 1 second come of your lap times.

The 710 only has .8 personally I dont think there is anything special about them
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To sell them to us suckers

I am not saying they are useless but I doubt you would get a benifit of half a second a lap.

Maybe somebody that has run both with the same setup and track conditions could give us some feedback
We've used 0.8M and 1.0M on the same car and same track. Actually we've used both gear types on the Kyosho Evo as well.

The verdict in my book is that there's not a measureable difference, unless you count the rate the K gears wear out.
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also i think with the 0.8 gears your permitted to go off a few teeth.
EG 20/50 26/46
where as 1.0 gears you had to be spot on
20/50 26/44
true?
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also i think with the 0.8 gears your permitted to go off a few teeth.
EG 20/50 26/46
where as 1.0 gears you had to be spot on
20/50 26/44
true?
With the .8 gears mesh is even more important, less marging for error otherwise they strip
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ops! i was told the opposite GrRrR!
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just like to know besides the mugen wheel hex...anybody have tried other manufacturers hex that fits on to the mugen's..
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just like to know besides the mugen wheel hex...anybody have tried other manufacturers hex that fits on to the mugen's..

I have the Mugens ones and the 3Racing ones. The 3R hexes work fine for what they are and I have had no problems with them.
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