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Old 02-12-2004, 10:13 AM   #10081
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Yes droop and ride height do work together, when ride height is raised you lose droop and when it is decreased you gain droop(with all else being held constant) Even though you set up droop up on blocks to get it even when you attach the shocks and place the car on the ground things change (spring preload, shock extension limits etc..) I think the main point about droop is that it is the measurement of up travel the chassis has before the wheel leaves the ground, so if you put your car on a flat surface and measure ride height at say 5mm and then lift the car from the center of the chassis and the wheels leave the ground at 8mm then your droop is 3mm on that end of the car. This subject gets a little tricky because we are dealing with foam tires that wear quite a bit, and then you try to keep your ride height constant by jacking the springs collars down but then you wonder why the car handling is becoming loose, it is because you are loosing droop mm for mm as you crank those spring collars down to keep your ride height in check. So how do you get around this? Always run tires trued to the same diameter, unfortunately my funds won't allow me to do this. so as the tire wears and ride height lowers I crank on the springs and increase the droop accordingly.
Yes.. u might be talking about up-stops then??
but we usually fiddle with the down-stops more then we touch the up-stops??

in anyway.. whatever i am doing right now about the droops are good for me and it works for me even i dun really understand what you are saying..

cheers.. happy racing.
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Old 02-12-2004, 10:49 AM   #10082
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So on the stock setup for droop are they accounting for stock tires or tires trued down?
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Old 02-12-2004, 01:49 PM   #10083
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Whats the handling characteristic of the low roll center or "A" mounting blocks for the rear?

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Old 02-12-2004, 01:52 PM   #10084
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I run an EVO and I ditch the rear floating mount as I find the traditional shock tower gives more consistent performance over the floating mount.

is there a floating mount for the MTX3? any advantages for the MTX3 if i use 1?
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Old 02-12-2004, 01:58 PM   #10085
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Should I replace the clutch that came with the kit with a Centax? If so, which one?
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Old 02-12-2004, 02:07 PM   #10086
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Should I replace the clutch that came with the kit with a Centax? If so, which one?
huh????? The car comes with a centax.
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Old 02-12-2004, 05:25 PM   #10087
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I am not talking about upstops at all, Not many people use those that I know of myself included
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I am not sure what the stock setup uses as a tire size, but if the stock setup says 2mm droop in the front then run 2mm of droop up front regardless of the tire size, that is how i look at it and it seems to make the car handle pretty consistently
hope to see you tomorrow night racing
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I am not sure what the stock setup uses as a tire size, but if the stock setup says 2mm droop in the front then run 2mm of droop up front regardless of the tire size, that is how i look at it and it seems to make the car handle pretty consistently
hope to see you tomorrow night racing
So what would you compensate droop wise for if you are running 61mm tires then?

I am charging everything up tonight along with Art, Adam, Joe and Bobby but that all is weather permitting.
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Old 02-12-2004, 05:56 PM   #10089
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Great I look forward to seeing/racing the whole gang
Traffic might be a little heavy on the way in due to the truck race
at DIS, but the traffic should be cleared out by the time our races wrap up 2am ish. On the droop thing we'll chat at the track, unless you are extremely fast as usual, in that case I will be wrenching feverishly in an attempt to get a set up that will catch you
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Default ok, cool

Just getting to that part of the build now, but thought that I read "shoe" and "clutch" someplace in the description. Maybe I don't quite know what a centax looks like...

Will go read it again and review the manual.

Thanks,

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Great I look forward to seeing/racing the whole gang
Traffic might be a little heavy on the way in due to the truck race
at DIS, but the traffic should be cleared out by the time our races wrap up 2am ish. On the droop thing we'll chat at the track, unless you are extremely fast as usual, in that case I will be wrenching feverishly in an attempt to get a set up that will catch you
So if you are running non-trued foams you set your droop 2 in front and 6 in the rear as stated in the setup sheet? I found that a quarter turn on my driver is 1mm so I wont need to break out the droop gauges . I am sure traffic is going to suck coming and going. I think my friend Abner is also coming but how do I get there?
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Now that theres' a MRX-4 coming out, i wonder if they'll be any MTX-4 in the next yr.
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Now that theres' a MRX-4 coming out, i wonder if they'll be any MTX-4 in the next yr.
If you've noticed, Mugen replaces their cars every 3-4 years with a new version.
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Old 02-13-2004, 06:23 PM   #10094
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If you've noticed, Mugen replaces their cars every 3-4 years with a new version.
wont it be making our life boring?

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wont it be making our life boring?

Someone should tell them to stop designing there cars properly.
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