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Old 07-30-2003, 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by kevink2
The R/C gods are reading....
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Yeah, well I must have done something to piss them off. All my cars are falling apart lately.
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Old 07-30-2003, 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by eddiethefish
Agree! Get the proper tool for it. Don't risk yourself with any injury.

Manti, that's a great tip for the improvisation.
I especially agree with the injury part,i've seen all too many when working on 1:1 cars.You got to have the right tools,even better when you have the best tools!!!
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Old 07-30-2003, 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by stefan
This thread is really becoming a source of unlimited wisdom.

24K shock shafts, platinum screws, proper tools.

Does anybody have anything interesting to say anymore?

How about new setups, or other tips to improve the car?

Manti, you even forgot to flame me for using my GPM knuckles on Sunday, what's up with that? Are you slacking?
What are the 24k shock shafts?
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Old 07-30-2003, 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by EVOLUTION
What are the 24k shock shafts?
That's Ti nitride coated shock shaft !!

I will post up my smart tool picture later today !
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Old 07-30-2003, 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by Manticore
That's Ti nitride coated shock shaft !!

I will post up my smart tool picture later today !
Hmm,first one to post a nice pic of their 24K shafts gets a free snap on circlip plier shipped via MTO airways LOL.

Manti,you mean your 2 ballpoint pens?
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Originally posted by EVOLUTION
Hmm,first one to post a nice pic of their 24K shafts gets a free snap on circlip plier shipped via MTO airways LOL.

Manti,you mean your 2 ballpoint pens?
2 ball point pens is a quick fix if you dont have the "Proper tool" my smart tool has been serving me in the last 15 years !
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i used my mom's art pilers to get that clip on
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Originally posted by EVOLUTION
I especially agree with the injury part,i've seen all too many when working on 1:1 cars.You got to have the right tools,even better when you have the best tools!!!
Damn, how much did that cost ya ? Thats a snap-on
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Old 07-30-2003, 10:12 PM
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Damn, how much did that cost ya ? Thats a snap-on
Ehhh. It's not triple chrome plated.

Need one Roger? You can borrow mine.
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Originally posted by EVOLUTION
I especially agree with the injury part,i've seen all too many when working on 1:1 cars.You got to have the right tools,even better when you have the best tools!!!
Exactly what I used. It makes like so much easier when you have the right stuff.

fortunately I had the snap ring pliers availible to me from the race shop. I just ''borrowed'' an old broken set. Although it would have been tossed out at the shop, I can still use it!
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Originally posted by Manticore
2 ball point pens is a quick fix if you dont have the "Proper tool" my smart tool has been serving me in the last 15 years !
I can't blame you,they didn't make circlip pliers back in the 30s when you first started.

I remember seeing a guy once when i first started racing trying to get a clip on and off with 2 small phillips screwdrivers and what happened next wasn't pretty.


Roger,

I can't remember how much they were,i bought them years ago in a set of 5.The awesome feature with these pliers is that they can be used for both type of clips,the ones that need to be compressed and the other type which needs to be spread.All snap on tools also come with life time waranty and that's why most of my tool box that i use on 1:1 cars is filled with them,probably close to 20K worth over the years.
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Old 07-30-2003, 10:40 PM
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what hardness foam tires are people using when they have the 16/19T conversion?

i am thinking of buying softer rear (37) and harder front (40)

but i heard that when using the conversion, the rear tire's diameter has to be 3 mm bigger than the front

so can this tire combination work? because if the rear is softer, would it wear faster and can no longer be used due to the 16/19T conversion?

thanks for any insights
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Originally posted by B
what hardness foam tires are people using when they have the 16/19T conversion?

i am thinking of buying softer rear (37) and harder front (40)

but i heard that when using the conversion, the rear tire's diameter has to be 3 mm bigger than the front

so can this tire combination work? because if the rear is softer, would it wear faster and can no longer be used due to the 16/19T conversion?

thanks for any insights
you need to judge approx how much wear on the rear tyre after each tank. if the wear rate is 0.5mm per tank, in a 30 min main your rear wear should be 3mm in total. so at the end of the race, the rear tyre wear should not be smaller than the front, remember that your front tyre wear out too!
you have to test the set up and find a best compromise for your tyre wear if you opt to use the softer which wear out faster than the front. Else, if the front and rear tyre wear are the same in diameter towards the end of the race, your car would be twitchy to drive and putting lot of stress on the front belt..
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so in short, get front and rear the same hardness and problem solved?


common fellow mtx-3 racers, do you guys usually use the same hardness front and rear when u have the 16/19T conversion?
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Thanks Uriah.

My snap ring pliers look almost exactly like those, except for cheaper looking grip material.

I use 37s rears, and cut the fronts 2-3 mm smaller than the rears out of the box. They generally come off the track at the end of a 30 min main the same size as the (42)fronts.

I race at the track with some fast company...Grinder, Stefan, and another guy Nick... and I think we all run different shore tires. I know Nick has been running 37/37's.... and you other 2?

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