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Old 06-04-2003, 12:15 AM   #4741
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I laid down a small spew on O.D. as well tire split management a while back. They didn't buy it... But I did not do as well a job as you did in selling it either.

Speaking of techical info. Please enlighten me on the following.

Shock positions... as I understand it, the more laid down, the softer and also more progessive. Now..I have only used these diff. pos. to soften or stiffen. What am I missing out on by not using the "progressive" part. I'm thinking less responsive but more mid corner bite??? Please....

Ackerman... A= less initial and smoother but more throw... C= twitchy but less throw and thus less overall steering??? C felt like the 2 deg of front toe out I ran once in my v1rr. Is it a misconception that more toe out yeilds more steering cuz ulitimately you are getting less throw at the outside wheel... Again...please

Droop... less in the front yeilds more on power steering ... But I've read that Salven uses droop to keep tires in constant contact w/ pavement to get on power steering. He can't be wrong....?

What's better? Stiffer front spring and say 40's or softer front spring and 45's. Huuummm..

Lastly...boxers or ....j/k.

Thanks in advance. I have more questions later if you don't mind.

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Old 06-04-2003, 12:21 AM   #4742
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Sometimes I feel like I should of kept the RR... Nahhh.

BTW. Where did you get a 22 pinion? I will see you this weekend at Rev.

Seeya!
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:34 AM   #4743
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Shock positions... as I understand it, the more laid down, the softer and also more progessive. Now..I have only used these diff. pos. to soften or stiffen. What am I missing out on by not using the "progressive" part. I'm thinking less responsive but more mid corner bite??? Please....

Droop... less in the front yeilds more on power steering ... But I've read that Salven uses droop to keep tires in constant contact w/ pavement to get on power steering. He can't be wrong....?

What's better? Stiffer front spring and say 40's or softer front spring and 45's. Huuummm..

Lastly...boxers or ....j/k.

Thanks in advance. I have more questions later if you don't mind.

Jonathan

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I'm not PMT but I'm also learning. I'll try and answer your questions wherever I can in the hope that I can be corrected when and if I'm wrong and can affirm myself if it's correct information that I got.

Progressiveness of a shock as how I understood it is the shocks will be able to absorb small bumps without working through the entire suspension of the shock. So your car will still remain flat and stable even when working through the bumps.

Concerning front droop for on power steering, that is what I read as well. Michael Salven argues that when the car is on power, weight from the front transfers to the rear anyway, regardless if you're having more or less front droop. By limiting front droop, the front tires will lift on power and hence you loose front traction ansd steering. By using more front droop, you maintain front tire contact patch even when the car experiences weight transfer to the rear. I think this is what was discussed in the starting grid as well in one of the technical conferences and they came to the same conclusion.

As for tires, I've been experimenting the combination that you have mentioned above. I find that softer tires and harder shocks make the car handle better so far as the tires last you. Harder tires and softer shocks tend to make the car more lazy.

BTW, cool son Looks a lot like the father
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Old 06-04-2003, 02:37 AM   #4744
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Check out my avatar!!! My son Ethan Henry.. Born Feb 1, 03 [/B][/QUOTE] Jonathan: My daughter was born on Feb 01, 2001. Same B-day as your son
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1st of Feb is a very good day......
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Old 06-04-2003, 02:50 AM   #4746
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Jonathan: My daughter was born on Feb 01, 2001. Same B-day as your son [/B][/QUOTE]

talk about a match made in rctech!
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Old 06-04-2003, 02:59 AM   #4747
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Ugh! you like to ride your machine on quite bumpy tracks. Mine isn't scratched so much. Ride on pretty flat tracks, don't hit boards and don't assault pianos

Like to keep mine chasis as shiny as I can, only small scratches on front and rear ends due to hard driving.
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Ugh! you like to ride your machine on quite bumpy tracks. Mine isn't scratched so much. Ride on pretty flat tracks, don't hit boards and don't assault pianos

Like to keep mine chasis as shiny as I can, only small scratches on front and rear ends due to hard driving.
well, he needs to battle with those snakers in singapore !

who doesnt love shinny, bud?
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hi manti, i viewed a few page back and noticed that you are running a siro 5 AAC. any comment for that ? I run mine yesterday but it is not as good as i thought. I stripped off the motor today and found noticable wet in between the chamber and the housing. I believe there is some leakage but don't know where. also, is it mandatory to use the OS glow plug on sirio turbo head ? thanks anyone who have this engine can give me some advice too...
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hi manti, i viewed a few page back and noticed that you are running a siro 5 AAC. any comment for that ? I run mine yesterday but it is not as good as i thought. I stripped off the motor today and found noticable wet in between the chamber and the housing. I believe there is some leakage but don't know where. also, is it mandatory to use the OS glow plug on sirio turbo head ? thanks anyone who have this engine can give me some advice too...
right, i started running my AAC with a AIP modified carb from the first c.c. and the engine is clean as heaven. there is not any leak at all so far after around 1 gallon of fuel.

I listened to Mr. Lam's advice and use OS plug as he said the Novarossi plug thread is a bit too tight for sirio turbo button.

try to use colder plug for your sirio such as OS 7 and this will make your plug lives longer.
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hi manti, i viewed a few page back and noticed that you are running a siro 5 AAC. any comment for that ? I run mine yesterday but it is not as good as i thought. I stripped off the motor today and found noticable wet in between the chamber and the housing. I believe there is some leakage but don't know where. also, is it mandatory to use the OS glow plug on sirio turbo head ? thanks anyone who have this engine can give me some advice too...
if you are able to use novarossi plug, then you shouldnt have problem unless you have loosen head screws or you have a leaking exhaust gasket but there could be some other reasons.

the engine is fast out of box and it is very easy to run in if you follow the instruction.
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Ugh! you like to ride your machine on quite bumpy tracks. Mine isn't scratched so much. Ride on pretty flat tracks, don't hit boards and don't assault pianos

Like to keep mine chasis as shiny as I can, only small scratches on front and rear ends due to hard driving.
nothing much i could do actually, forgotten to adjust the spring collars on few occasions...
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nothing much i could do actually, forgotten to adjust the spring collars on few occasions...
seems like you are too happy with your mugen !
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well, he needs to battle with those snakers in singapore !

who doesnt love shinny, bud?
mine looks almost as bad as yours..if not mistaken!
no time to bring the car into pit as was under hot persue by some snakers...
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mine looks almost as bad as yours..if not mistaken!
no time to bring the car into pit as was under hot persue by some snakers...
dont worry, they are little snakers ! worms, bugs
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