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Old 05-31-2003, 06:42 PM   #4456
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Stefan: regarding the graphite body mount, there is a new version of it. i will try my best to sent a replacement to you as
soon as possible and as cheap as possible. Thanks!

Meanwhile, Check out the update on www.justrc.com

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Old 05-31-2003, 07:10 PM   #4457
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I dont think Manti was being smart?? It was more of a question regarding the post. I think he wasnt certain if you were making a statement or a question.
But thanks on the excellent tip though PMT I will have to go suss out one of these white pens.

Thanks, I'm just trying to share information. After all this is how we all learned what we know. Now regarding Manti, in hind site I can potentialy see what you are talking about as it also looks like there is a language issue also. However after the above post I do have a couple of comments to him about some of it.


a) when it comes to 1/8, most of the people (mostl likely idiot) thinks they are the superior guy over the others running 1/10 or scale smaller then 1/8. I am very sick of this.

I can tell you that this"idiot" is not one of them. I also started with 1/10th. Now I run 1/10th, 1/8th and 1/5th. I enjoy all classes and think that they all require differnt aproaches and each have their own requirements as far as skill sets. However I will say that it is comments and actions, just like the ones that you currently are displaying, that make most 1/8th scale drivers think this way.



a) This idiot is talking about the difference of the ratio 1.001 to 1.008

what the hell?



This idiot is not talking about the difference between 1.001 & 1.008. This idiot was just pointing out what the overdrive ratio was at the tire diameter that you mentioned. I have not seen anybody including your self post the actual overdrive ratios. You seem to know everything, why don't you give the guys the rest of the tire diameres / overdrive ratios?

b) being someone owning a digital caliper or owning 100 pairs of tire is the ticket to teach others? hell no!!!


No it's not. The ticket to teach others is providing easy to understand and informative information that helps people in a non confrontational or intimidating manner!

c) this new guy is telling us to keep 100 pairs of tire to do the stupid matching games?

I'm asuming that you are calling me a new guy because I have not been posting often on this forrum, fair enough. However please note that this new guy is not telling all of you to keep 100 pairs of tires to do and I quote you "the stupid matching games". What I'm telling you is a way to stop having to use a tire truer all of the time + quickly and easily find tires that have the correct diameter to run the correct overdrive ratio. If you call this stupid, then I guess it is, for you....

d) keep it to himself and stay with his stupid life.

A truely inteligent comment! So using your statement as an example I guess that my life is stupid and I and others should not post information that helps others with this car. Hmmm..... maybe I should devote the day to posting pictures of the shiney alloy parts on my car and talk about hop ups all the time. Better yet when someone else has something to say I'll attack them because I can't have any one else looking like they know something that I don't. Oh wait........ If I was to do that I would be acting like you...............

Have a nice day.
to summarize what he said,

he tells people not to true your tire but to keep 100 pair or tires for the stupid matching game !

he tells telling people that he doesnt like to see shinny alloy parts.

he tells people that they should give accurate inforamation up to 0.001.

he tells people he owns a 1/5 and 1/10 too.

is that what you trying to say new guy?

I dont normally waste too much of my time to type over here but giving short answers. but you are amusing me indeed with your bs.

how many set of 1/5 tire you keep new guy?
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Old 05-31-2003, 07:13 PM   #4458
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to summarize what he said,

he tells people not to true your tire but to keep 100 pair or tires for the stupid matching game !

he tells telling people that he doesnt like to see shinny alloy parts.

he tells people that they should give accurate inforamation up to 0.001.

he tells people he owns a 1/5 and 1/10 too.

is that what you trying to say new guy?

I dont normally waste too much of my time to type over here but giving short answers. but you are amusing me indeed with your bs.

how many set of 1/5 tire you keep new guy?

ka ka this is getting too funny! speaking of that I always have 12 pairs of 1/5 scale tires with me, front and rear different compounds! but as for 10th scale, I only keep like 1 pair of front and 2 pairs of rear!
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i like your signature !
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Have any suggestions for a starting point for a foam setup?

Right now I have a -1degree camber, 2 degree rear toe in and have no idea what I should make my front setup.

I was running a -2 degree camber but the rear started to cone inward pretty bad so I changed it to -1because I heard that you should run at least -1, is this true?

ride height?

Thanks in advanced.

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Old 05-31-2003, 07:51 PM   #4462
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to summarize what he said,

he tells people not to true your tire but to keep 100 pair or tires for the stupid matching game !

he tells telling people that he doesnt like to see shinny alloy parts.

he tells people that they should give accurate inforamation up to 0.001.

he tells people he owns a 1/5 and 1/10 too.

is that what you trying to say new guy?

I dont normally waste too much of my time to type over here but giving short answers. but you are amusing me indeed with your bs.

how many set of 1/5 tire you keep new guy?

Actualy if you would stop trying to talk so much and actualy learn how to read you would answere your own questions kid.

Most people have more than 1 pair of tires for their sedans, maybe you do not. Write the diameters on them when you put them in your box and you can quickly find a matching pair. How do you need to have 100pairs of tires to do this?


I'm not telling people that I do not like shiney alloy parts. I'm saying that you seem to know more about these shiny alloy parts than anything else.

Acurate information down to .001. If you have ever seen an overdrive ratio chart you will see that this is calculated down to .001/ Just a sugestion but if you are going to to talk down to people it helps to actualy know what you are talking about.

Yes I own both 1/5th and 1/10th scale cars too. So?

Regarding me being new to this forum, does that bother you??? Do you think that you are the only one that has anything constructive to post?

Regarding the BS, I think the only BS right now is coming out of your mouth kid.


I usualy take about 6 pairs of 1/5th tires with me to the track. Is this too much? Do you actualy know anything about 5th scale cars?
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Have any suggestions for a starting point for a foam setup?

Right now I have a -1degree camber, 2 degree rear toe in and have no idea what I should make my front setup.

I was running a -2 degree camber but the rear started to cone inward pretty bad so I changed it to -1because I heard that you should run at least -1, is this true?

ride height?

Thanks in advanced.

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the stock setup always a good starting point for foam setup.
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Old 05-31-2003, 07:53 PM   #4464
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Actualy if you would stop trying to talk so much and actualy learn how to read you would answere your own questions kid.

Most people have more than 1 pair of tires for their sedans, maybe you do not. Write the diameters on them when you put them in your box and you can quickly find a matching pair. How do you need to have 100pairs of tires to do this?


I'm not telling people that I do not like shiney alloy parts. I'm saying that you seem to know more about these shiny alloy parts than anything else.

Acurate information down to .001. If you have ever seen an overdrive ratio chart you will see that this is calculated down to .001/ Just a sugestion but if you are going to to talk down to people it helps to actualy know what you are talking about.

Yes I own both 1/5th and 1/10th scale cars too. So?

Regarding me being new to this forum, does that bother you??? Do you think that you are the only one that has anything constructive to post?

Regarding the BS, I think the only BS right now is coming out of your mouth kid.


I usualy take about 6 pairs of 1/5th tires with me to the track. Is this too much? Do you actualy know anything about 5th scale

cars?
now you are calling me kid !

And ! you make me laugh so much grand pa !

what else more my new guy?
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now you are calling me kid !

And ! you make me laugh so much grand pa !

what else more my new guy?
Sorry, from your previous posts I thought that you were 12 or 13. If you are older I appolagize.

AH10 do you race 1/5th? What track do you run at?
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Sorry, from your previous posts I thought that you were 12 or 13. If you are older I appolagize.

AH10 do you race 1/5th? What track do you run at?
well, from your earlier posts, I thought you were anal. but you are still an anal !

I do appologize too !
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Wow.. 100 sets of tires? I've never had more than two sets of nitro foams at one time. I just can't afford several sets..

For electric, I usually take two sets to the track, but thats a different game all together.

but... ''cant we all get along?''
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You know what they say..."Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics...even if you win, you're still retarded." Not that either of you is retarded, but c'mon guys, this is the internet, and this board/thread was created to share information, not argue with each other over a few misunderstandings.

I don't race onroad(yet..but I'm not sure I'll get the chance to since it's dying at my local track), but with offroad I usually bring 2 or 3 sets of tires with me for 1/8 and 1 or 2 pairs of fronts/2 or 3 pairs of rears for 1/10.
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Sorry, from your previous posts I thought that you were 12 or 13. If you are older I appolagize.

AH10 do you race 1/5th? What track do you run at?
Yes I do, I normally run at Crystal Park, Revelation and sometimes KZ, where do you run? I dont think I have ever met you! I kind of know anyone and everyone with 5th scale at those tracks!

What tire do u use on the 5th and what compound?
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well, from your earlier posts, I thought you were anal. but you are still an anal !

I do appologize too !
Manti, I'm only apolagizing if you are older than 12? However I still think that you are an as*

TSR6, where are people getting 100 pairs of tires from? In 1/8th we burn up a lot of rubber and the Hudy box is made to hold about this many pairs. To avoid using fresh tires every time we use the paint pen trick that I mentioned before. This way you don't waste rubber truing and you can use them up completely. I usualy take 2 sets of tires with me to a race. After I run them I mark them and put them in the box. Next time if I want to run a specific diamter I just look in my tire box and grab a used set that has the right diameter instead of cutting a fresh set. Saves money!

Stefan, I'm not too bussy bashing so I will take the time to respond to your question about overdrive. This is starting with the basics so my appolagies if this is repetative. Most 1/8th cars come w/ an overdrive ratio chart. In the last couple of years in touring w/ the use of foam tires there is starting to become a need for calculating this too. What the overdrive ration indicates is the ratio of drive (rotations) of the front tires compared to the rear tires. There are pulley sets available to adjust this but as foam tires wear (diameters change) this is most commonly adjusted by truing the tires to specific diametes.

When you see an overdrive ratio under 1 i.e. .985 what this means is that the rear tires are overdriving the fronts. Or for every complete rotation of the rear tires the front tires rotate .985 turns. When you see a ratio over 1 i.e. 1.008 that means that the front tires are overdriving the rears. Or for every 1 rotation of the rear tires the front rotates 1.008 times. These might seem light minute amounts but it can result in a significant change in how your car handles.

The ratio comes into play to a) tailor your cars handeling to the track type i.e. large flowing w/ sweepers or tight, narrow w/ 180's. b) Change the handeling of your car i.e. feeling of more steering, reduce the amount of steering etc.

So as a general rule of thumb on flowing high speed tracks you can run less overdrive i.e. 1.00 (sometimes below 1). This will make your car easier to drive on this type of track and also because you are running taller rear tires allow a higher top speed. On tight technical tracks you want to run a higher overdrive ration i.e 1.00 or above. This puts more drive to the front of the car and generaly makes the front of the car pull the rear around (extreem example is a front wheel drive full size car where front of car pulls the rear around corners) making the car feel almost like it has more steering. This makes it easier to drive around tight 180's etc. and generaly the car will go in the direction the front wheels are pointed when you apply gas. With overdrive small diameter changes make a large difference and this is something that needs to be experimented with to find what ratio you like best. You already have felt what a change in overdrive ration does, you probably have noticed that during the corse of a 30 minute main the handeling of your car changes? This change in handeling is because your tire diamteres are changing and hence your overdrive ratio.

Now before I get jumped on by anyone about the above overdrive explination let me say that this is an extreemely simplified explination of how and what changing this does.
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