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Old 04-20-2003, 07:36 PM   #3001
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i c.... so will haveing a lighter car make the handleing worse??? and at my track i dont think they check the weight... so more me would it be better to have a lighter car??? and is this car the lightest of the bunch???
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In most conditions I think a lighter car is an advantage. A lighter car is able to transition quicker. On unwieldy tracks at very high speeds a lighter car can be more difficult to control, but the majority of the time lighter is better.

I think what these guys are saying is that the mtx3 is already very light and in stock trim (depending on engine) can come in under the legal weight. So other than maybe being concerned with lightening up the rotating mass parts, there isn't much need to be concerned with weight on the mtx3.
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Old 04-20-2003, 08:22 PM   #3003
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ok.... cuz my track is not about speed... more technical... so i guess this car would deff. be an option... but i need my $$$ first!!!
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Old 04-20-2003, 09:16 PM   #3004
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Also with weight your car is more stable.
hmm...i dont quite agree with your statement...
well, does that mean F1 car is 'not so stable' because it only weights 600kg but can travel up to 350km/h...???
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ok.... cuz my track is not about speed... more technical... so i guess this car would deff. be an option... but i need my $$$ first!!!
i thought you'd chosen the 705 last week? This is your 2nd car now?
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Old 04-20-2003, 10:30 PM   #3006
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hmm...i dont quite agree with your statement...
well, does that mean F1 car is 'not so stable' because it only weights 600kg but can travel up to 350km/h...???
Can you really be the one to say that an F1 car is so stable? If that were the case, you'd see your average joe drivning one of these things( If they could afford it). I'm not going to be the one who definitively says F1 cars are unstable because it is not my place either, BUT I will wager that they are unstable, rediculously at that. Why do you think they call it the pinnacle of motorsports?...cause these guys can deal with that kind of sh_t. And from what I can tell from those overhead-cockpit views, that's quite a lot of steering correction for a car that seems to be traveling in a straight line.
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Can you really be the one to say that an F1 car is so stable? If that were the case, you'd see your average joe drivning one of these things( If they could afford it). I'm not going to be the one who definitively says F1 cars are unstable because it is not my place either, BUT I will wager that they are unstable, rediculously at that. Why do you think they call it the pinnacle of motorsports?...cause these guys can deal with that kind of sh_t. And from what I can tell from those overhead-cockpit views, that's quite a lot of steering correction for a car that seems to be traveling in a straight line.

Err....i didnt say F1 car is so stable too!
I was taking a simple illustration to compare the the weight issue relative to the stability of the car using F1 as an example.
And i agree that you and I are not in the position to render opinions on the F1 cars as we are all not in it.
There are just too many aspects to consider such as Aerodynamics, Set-up, Weight..etc..etc that will have a direct link to the stability of the car and not just the weight alone! And not even to try to relate to the driver!
'Lot of steering correction' as seen on the cockpit cam is caused by the extremely high downforce at extremely high speed (>300 km/h) on the track causing the driver not able to hold the steering calmly. Again, this has got to do with aeraodynamics and the setting of the car bacause of the resistance from the wind travel and not the driver and not because the car is too light!

So, correcting stering in a stra8 line cannot solely be linked to the weight issue of the car and regardless who the driver is!

If a lighter F1 car does make the driver more difficult to handle in a stra8 line, just ask all the F1 team bosses why are they spending billions and billions $$$ each year in R&D just to create something which is lighter and strong to replace the old and heavy pieces...

Just my 2 cts...
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Just a quick update on how the MTX3 is preforming down under.
At the New South Wales state titles
Held at the same track that 8th scale world championship was held at last year.
Mugen Mtx3 Finished 1,2,3,4. In an half hour final.
With the first place setting a new lap record for nitro tourers.

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about choosing a car well im still unsure..... as i said this one is an OPTION for sure...... i need to get my money first though
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Old 04-21-2003, 10:19 AM   #3012
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hi its me again I have questions again.

1. What belt/s that usually wears out? What is a good brand of belt replacement? I read here that kevlar belts are good.
2. What is the size of the screw on MT12 head?
3. In manual it says shock oils are 600, 500 etc. What are their equivalent in Associated shock oils coz I have those already and I dont want to spend my money on another set of oils. thnx
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hi its me again I have questions again.

1. What belt/s that usually wears out? What is a good brand of belt replacement? I read here that kevlar belts are good.
2. What is the size of the screw on MT12 head?
3. In manual it says shock oils are 600, 500 etc. What are their equivalent in Associated shock oils coz I have those already and I dont want to spend my money on another set of oils. thnx
Hello,

First, say no no to all those Al. Pulleys, and belts shall be with you for quite some time.

If you have plain stock chassis, you may likely encounter the problem on the Front belt. Later, if your long mid belt rubs against the manifold, that'll be next.

For the head screws, say bye bye to those old Novarossi flat head, and get yourself a whachama call it, hex or whatever. I'm not good at this mechanical terms on screws.

For the Shock oil, personally, I assume that 600 is 60, 500 is 50 and so on. People, please correct me.
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For the head screws, say bye bye to those old Novarossi flat head, and get yourself a whachama call it, hex or whatever. I'm not good at this mechanical terms on screws.
Those flat head screws are the best you can get for your engine, the other that show on the novarossi site are for the .21 engines, by the moment, aren't available for .12.

If you're gotting problems with those screws is a sure sign that you aren't using the right tool to remove it, pick the Hudy screwdriver and you'll see how easy are unscrewed and tightened without effort and not marring the head of the screws.
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Hello,

First, say no no to all those Al. Pulleys, and belts shall be with you for quite some time.

If you have plain stock chassis, you may likely encounter the problem on the Front belt. Later, if your long mid belt rubs against the manifold, that'll be next.

For the head screws, say bye bye to those old Novarossi flat head, and get yourself a whachama call it, hex or whatever. I'm not good at this mechanical terms on screws.

For the Shock oil, personally, I assume that 600 is 60, 500 is 50 and so on. People, please correct me.
agree, alloy pulley wear faster and they are much heavier.

so far I havent replaced any belt after around 3 gallon of fuel. the stock belts are heavy duty.

the japanese standard of #600 is equal to 55Wt and #500 equal to 45wt etc etc.
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