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Old 09-12-2005, 04:25 AM
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Hello,

Could anyone tell me how to prevent the car from "hooking" in corner....when i enter a fast sweeper very fast, the car would "hook" lose speed and then slide sideway, it usually happened in mid corner. The car is fast in all aspects of the track apart from two corners

Here my setup:

lola shell
42 s front
Front solid axle
600wt oil
dark blue spring
caster 1mm at rear
ackerman c
199mm front width
antiroll bar vertial
2mm droop
1" toeout
5mm front height
1/2 degree camber


rear

50,000 wt oil in diff
37 s rear
600 wt oil
dark blue apring
AA block
200mmm width
antiroll flat
6mm droop
6mm ride height
1/2 camber
1.5" toe in
no shims under outer link on upright blocks


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Old 09-12-2005, 05:07 AM
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After looking your setup, I think rear AA block is the culprit. You should try CC rear block for less roll but more grip.

Also try softer oil weight like 400 for front and rear suspension. I notice you don't use the original rear sway bar. Maybe swicth back to original because the blade type is too stiff even at flat position.
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Old 09-12-2005, 06:52 AM
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I agree, try disconnecting the rear sway bar.
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Old 09-12-2005, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by xtreme888
Hello,

Could anyone tell me how to prevent the car from "hooking" in corner....when i enter a fast sweeper very fast, the car would "hook" lose speed and then slide sideway, it usually happened in mid corner. The car is fast in all aspects of the track apart from two corners

Here my setup:

lola shell
42 s front
Front solid axle
600wt oil
dark blue spring
caster 1mm at rear
ackerman c
199mm front width
antiroll bar vertial
2mm droop
1" toeout
5mm front height
1/2 degree camber


rear

50,000 wt oil in diff
37 s rear
600 wt oil
dark blue apring
AA block
200mmm width
antiroll flat
6mm droop
6mm ride height
1/2 camber
1.5" toe in
no shims under outer link on upright blocks and C blocks.


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Switch from C ackerman to A, If you are running foam tires switch to 3.5 rear camber and 2 front .drop to 30000 diff lube also get rid of some of the rear droop!
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Old 09-12-2005, 08:02 AM
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Try working with tires! Maybe switch front tires to 40Shore and 37 on the back, because in my opinion there is a huge diference in the shore, and you have more traction on the rear with no control on the front. I don't know if you understand me.. Or maybe leave the 42 and back put 40Shore. If that doesn't work, start working with the suspension, maybe add some shims in the rear uprights.. Or play with the shocks..
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Old 09-12-2005, 09:16 AM
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Where can i find the rear Kawahara sway bar ?
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Old 09-12-2005, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Juan C Munoz
Where can i find the rear Kawahara sway bar ?
Call Mugen, they have them in-stock.
1-949-707-5607
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Old 09-12-2005, 08:23 PM
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Put more tow in the rear, about 3, use a b or a steering ackerman and use gray springs up front with a 45deg sway bar setting. and the second hole up on both shock towers.
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Old 09-13-2005, 04:07 AM
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hi guys...well been awhile since May this year that i make it to the A main...but last weekend my mugen was a perfect setup, tyre choices was good, weather also good...although i'm not one of the fastest guys in the finals ( started 10) but the consistancy and driveablity of the car help me finished 4th... also 1st time i'm using the stratus 3.1 b/shell....feels really fast and good cornering....
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Old 09-13-2005, 06:45 AM
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Has anyone tried the stratus 3.1? Any feed back?
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Old 09-13-2005, 07:48 AM
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I liked the Stratus 3.0 so much, I ordered 12 of them. Problem is, my painter is so busy....


After hitting a dead car in the straight, I need to put a new chassis under the car. What is everyone else running? I think I'm just going to get a new Prospec chassis from Mugen, but it isn't cheap.
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Old 09-13-2005, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Jea3
I liked the Stratus 3.0 so much, I ordered 12 of them. Problem is, my painter is so busy....

After hitting a dead car in the straight, I need to put a new chassis under the car. What is everyone else running? I think I'm just going to get a new Prospec chassis from Mugen, but it isn't cheap.
Jea3 : I have two brand new MTX3 Prospec 4mm chassis, selling them $45 bux each. If you interested, please email me : [email protected]
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I`m running an R D Logics chassie its only 2.7mm thick and very light! I have a 3 racing top plate on the car also , I hit a cement curb at full throttle in 2nd. gear and did not bend the chassie or break the top plate!
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Old 09-13-2005, 03:51 PM
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MTX-3 with prospec chassis + rb x12 + rd logic 1 piece pipe + painted nemesis shell in perfect condition + prospec fuel cap + alum front and rear sway bars + light weight 2 speed + front 1 way + alum rear bodypost mount + alum middle bodypost + spares + serpent starter box + full bearings going at $400 shipped worldwide. engine has only been broken in after rebuild. chassis has been used for about 10 hours. no damage to car at all. no broken parts since day 1. pics will tell you how new the car is from the alum parts.







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Old 09-13-2005, 03:55 PM
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Just wanna say I'm getting a warm, fuzzy feeling after my 2nd race weekend with this car. Very stable and predictable .
Wayne- Good meeting/racing against you and Larry! Glad you guys made the trip up. Glad you had parts!
Ira- Was hoping to see ya there. You making MWS? Finck and I had FUN. Both of us were in the show. A caved in pipe slowed me down. Seems the oil gets on the tires, making traction an issue! lol.
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