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Old 09-01-2005, 10:28 PM   #15871
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The gearing ratios are also different, you can't get as low a gearing with the 0.8mm pitched gears
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Old 09-02-2005, 07:35 AM   #15872
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what will change if i put the prospec gearing in my stock mtx3?
In simple, youll get a wider option of choosing more top-speed or more acceleration only through gears.
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Old 09-02-2005, 10:57 AM   #15873
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Thanks JLock. I wasn't going to go to the Kyosho, even if Mugen didn't have a new car. I'm pretty loyal to what ever car I decide to run. I tried the R40, and it handles pretty good, but can't take a hit. I've been running my Mugen for a couple of years now. Just got my Prospec early this year. Even running the Mugen X12 engine. Loved it so much, that when it was starting to lose a little performance, I went out and got another brand new X12.

Question. On short tracks, both parking lot and real tracks, with some to little traction, with bumps, what do you guys like? Front diff? Spool?

I went from a spool to a diff. At the race this weekend, traction will be an issue, and it has bumps. This is a popular race at Superior Hobbies, with over 120 entries for the last 2 races, so I really would like to TQ this one.

My car setup right now: 1 deg toe out in front, 3 deg toe in on rear. 5.5mm ride height front and rear. 40 weight oil in front shocks, 35 in rear, light blue springs all around. 50,000 oil in front diff, 5,000 in rear. 0 droop in front, -4 in rear. Rear shocks are 1 hole up from being layed down, front is 1 hole from being stright up. Mugen tires, 40 shore in front, 37 in rear, trued to 60 in front, 61.5 in rear, with the new stratus 3.0 body. Camber is -2 in front -2 1/4 in rear.

Usually the track layout is tight and technical with little traction for Nitro cars.

Thanks for any input.

UPDATE: Looks like I might be the only Mugen this weekend, as the last guy that races with me, just got a RRR Worlds. I really want to lay it on them this weekend. I have the power, and with CVEC's new midrange pipe, I really seem to be able to hold my own against the higher HP motors.

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Old 09-02-2005, 10:58 AM   #15874
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Here is another picture for you all.

This is an HPI body that Paintin Pete did for the HPI challenge, where I ran the R40. After almost everyone that ended up in the "A" main broke CVD's, and I gave my last set out, then ended up braking a CVD myself. Hobby shop ran out, so I spent all night moding MTX3 CVD's to fit.

I took the body off the HPI car, and re-lettered it for a race last weekend. I'm now fitting a new Protoform Stratus 3.0 with the same paint job. This will be the paint job on CVEC cars from now on. I'll get some pics of the new body this weekend, as pictures are taken for RC Car Action magazine, for upcoming article about the new CVEC.

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Old 09-02-2005, 11:25 AM   #15875
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UPDATE: Looks like I might be the only Mugen this weekend, as the last guy that races with me, just got a RRR Worlds. I really want to lay it on them this weekend. I have the power, and with CVEC's new midrange pipe, I really seem to be able to hold my own against the higher HP motors.

Good luck my MTX warriors !!! May the force be with you, said Mugen God.

Btw.... I need Mugen God blessing too On saturday and sunday I have big race coming. ( It is not easy, lots of V1 RRR, G4, 710 ).
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Old 09-04-2005, 04:40 AM   #15876
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Default Setup for car park

We run on a car park at the moment that is usually dusty. I have tried a few setups but the recent one i had the most sucess with.

Purple springs all round
-2 deg front camber
1mm toe out on front each side
caster central
4mm ride height front
1mm droop in front
198mm track width
anti roll bar flat

-3deg rear camber
2mm toe in each side
2mm camber gain spacers
"B" block rear anti roll
4mm rear droop
5mm ride height
200mm track width
2.5mm anti roll bar

all shocks in top holes
i ran 37 fronts at 62mm and 40 rears at 63mm but found that the fronts wore fast so i would probably go back to 40's all round.

Hope this gives you some direction

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Old 09-05-2005, 02:09 PM   #15877
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thanks for all the info on low traction setups, the only thing i need to do is get a droop gauge, can i set it with out the blocks a so forth?

how does droop effect the car? is it a fine tune adjustment or a rather important one?
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Old 09-05-2005, 05:53 PM   #15878
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thanks for all the info on low traction setups, the only thing i need to do is get a droop gauge, can i set it with out the blocks a so forth?

how does droop effect the car? is it a fine tune adjustment or a rather important one?
Droop is a very critical adjustment, the more the wheels drop down when the car is lifted up the more weight is transfered from that end of the car. When you come off the throttle, the weight is transfered to the front with a lot of droop. When you excellerate the more droop in the front causes more weight transfer to the rear. You will get more on power traction this way. When running rubber tires dont forget the clutch! Dont use the gray shoe use the stock black and set the clutch to come in early to bog the engine.
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can i adjust the droop with out the proper gauge and blocks?
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Old 09-05-2005, 10:33 PM   #15880
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Of course you can.

Try these, look under products for ride height gauges

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can i adjust the droop with out the proper gauge and blocks?
Yes you can! Adjust your ride height where you want it, then lift up on the rear or front of the car and measure again without lifting the wheels off the ground. That is how much droop or up travel you have at either end of the car, to make sure they are even. make sure that when you lift one end of the car off the ground both wheels lift at the same time.You have to lift at the center of the chassie to get corect measurements!
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can i adjust the droop with out the proper gauge and blocks?
if you want to be exact, use a ruler and place it vertically to measure extra chassis drop.
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Of course you can.

Try these, look under products for ride height gauges

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haha nice, i like the platinum set!
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:36 AM   #15884
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haha nice, i like the platinum set!
do you want Dudy Basic Tool Set ?

Btw, I like droop measurement kit.
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Or you could buy these nice tools.


http://www.cvec-racing.com/images/From%20Brandi/dg2.JPG
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