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Old 06-13-2005, 01:59 AM   #15316
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hey does anyone know the difference between the MTX-3 and the MTX-3 Prospect, thinking about getting one but the prospect is extra and i was wondering if there was much difference to substantiate the cost.
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hey does anyone know the difference between the MTX-3 and the MTX-3 Prospect, thinking about getting one but the prospect is extra and i was wondering if there was much difference to substantiate the cost.
the mtx3 is already race ready....if u r up to it, the prospec should be better with the extra hop up parts i.e. fro/rear universal , titanium screws & pivot ball,4mm chassis, . the rest is pretty much the same i guess...
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the mtx3 is already race ready....if u r up to it, the prospec should be better with the extra hop up parts i.e. fro/rear universal , titanium screws & pivot ball,4mm chassis, . the rest is pretty much the same i guess...
How come the website says nothing about titanium screws?
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Old 06-13-2005, 08:32 AM   #15319
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How come the website says nothing about titanium screws?
Because Mugen needs a different promoter for their products. The website doesn't give much info on anything concerning their cars. But it is a good car.
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Old 06-13-2005, 08:35 AM   #15320
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Don't use the bump stops, all they will do is make your car handle erradically when they hit. I've never seen anyone use them. I tried to use them once, and didn't like the unpredictablility of the handling when "bottoming" out on those screws.

The Prospec doesn't come with titanium screws. It is a bargain though with what comes on it. Titanium pivot balls, lay shaft (front shaft), tie rods, better clutch assembly (harder spring, lighten flyweights, grey clutch shoe), 4mm chassis, 0.8 gears, and .... I'm can't remember anything else. Just don't bust those titanium pivot balls, a pack of 2 will cost you $24 or a pack of 8 is $90.

If you can't afford the Prospec, the MTX3 is more than ready to race with any of the TCs on the market today.
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Old 06-13-2005, 08:59 AM   #15321
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Does anyone know where to find these pins? (the green pins in the picture)
These Mugen MTX-3 prospec CVD's are from such an excellent quality that I do not need to replace the complete CVD...only the pin has worn out...
Anybody tips or links?

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Old 06-13-2005, 09:07 AM   #15322
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[QUOTE=kempower2000]Does anyone know where to find these pins? (the green pins in the picture)
These Mugen MTX-3 prospec CVD's are from such an excellent quality that I do not need to replace the complete CVD...only the pin has worn out...
Anybody tips or links?

thanks,
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Serpent 801322 http://www.mytsn.com/products/product.asp?prid=2348
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Old 06-13-2005, 09:53 AM   #15323
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Serpent 801322 http://www.mytsn.com/products/product.asp?prid=2348[/QUOTE]

A very little bit shorter... Mugen pins are 9.53 x 2.97 Isn't that a problem? Did you try it already?

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[QUOTE=kempower2000]Does anyone know where to find these pins? (the green pins in the picture)
These Mugen MTX-3 prospec CVD's are from such an excellent quality that I do not need to replace the complete CVD...only the pin has worn out...
Anybody tips or links?

thanks,
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I don't know if you can just get the pin, but you can get just the shaft (t0250 on the picture) so that will save you from having to buy the whole set.
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I find that the car is a tad bit heavier on the side with the electronics; normal?
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Hey bcquick, you got PM
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A very little bit shorter... Mugen pins are 9.53 x 2.97 Isn't that a problem? Did you try it already?

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thanks for the quick response!!![/QUOTE]

Kem...I've used the serpent pins without problem.
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Does anyone know where to find these pins? (the green pins in the picture)
These Mugen MTX-3 prospec CVD's are from such an excellent quality that I do not need to replace the complete CVD...only the pin has worn out...
Anybody tips or links?

thanks,
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Those pins are fixed inside the bones, you can buy the bones if you like.
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finally getting my mtx3 to hook up at my track. using purple rear springs dark blue fronts, stock sway bar softess settiing, front sway bar at flat setting. 37 rear-40 front shore tires. my rear end seems to handle better with less toe? is that strange. does droop play a big part in handling and if so what part?

and i thought we had put this to rest but i see other posts that have me confused again. the rear blocks are for what, roll center. A is for high traction tracks, or to give you high traction? C is for low traction, or to give you lower traction?
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What do you mean by handling better with less rear toe? If it means your car rotates better, you are right. Less rear toe will lead to less straight line stability, but better rear rotation (going towards oversteer). I'm using 2 degrees in the rear and it seems to be perfect for me.

The rear blocks are for roll center changes. A block will lead to higher traction (the rear end is allowed to sway more (higher roll center)) while the C block will lead to "less" traction (the rear end is less sway happy (think stiffer swaybar) (ie lower roll center))

Droop does play a part in handling. More droop will give more responsive steering, but will not be happy under braking. If you run on a bumpy track, run more droop (lower #'s on the hudy droop gauges), on a smooth track, run less droop.
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