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Old 06-27-2005, 10:14 AM   #16
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i agree with rookie solara... i am not trying to say its damn good but its really value for the money.
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Old 06-27-2005, 04:53 PM   #17
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yeah and money is what i barely have i was hoping for a cheaper way like getting more ports or something for the T-15 cause i lose on the staight but im back after the U-turn
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Old 06-27-2005, 05:24 PM   #18
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The Evo Guy, what car do you have?
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Old 06-27-2005, 05:36 PM   #19
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i use to have a nitro 2 before it blew up so im pushing a nitro evo 3 full racing
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Old 06-27-2005, 08:03 PM   #20
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I can garantee you 1 thing, you can never tell the different between the OS 12 TZ 3 ports versus a $460 Mod Nova Rossi on a 200'-0" or less straight track....
Find out how big is your track before you hand out the $460....if your track is short and small, there is NO WAY you can use that $460 power, like you have to hit the brake before the real horse power kicks in, then what is the point to get the extra HP? Like driving a Ferrari on 5th Avenue around 5:00pm, a 90 years old grandpa walk faster then the Ferrari.
I have seen the 12TZ in action, I would say it does worth the $190, and it does run as fast as those big boys on certain track, but I would not say it will take out all those Nova Rossi, Mugen, Rody, JP..........when it comes to the big track like Hamilton, those ($460 engines) are the big power house of engines for those track.
You spend so much $$$ on engine. You must learn how to use it. Without the skill, even a $500 engine is no use. I would say that the faster the engine, the smaller the margin of error.
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Old 06-27-2005, 08:42 PM   #21
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i didnt spend alot i got it new for 90 but i just want to make sure i dont do anything stupid like what happened to my nitro 2 so if i can get a new sleeve that works better or a carb ill be fine cause college is taking all my green lol
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Old 06-28-2005, 05:06 AM   #22
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I have been testing this engine for a few weeks now and it is fast. It is not as fast as my modified Mugen X12 by any means, but is a great engine for the money. The modified TZ is much faster than the stock version, but still not X12 fast. The engine lacks that 3rd gear that the Novas seem to have, and 2 people I know have had problems with the idle stop screw breaking or backing out. The engine gets good fuel consumption, idles for days, and has one of the smoothest powerband of any I have tested. Good motor, but not the fastest.
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I have been testing this engine for a few weeks now and it is fast. It is not as fast as my modified Mugen X12 by any means, but is a great engine for the money. The modified TZ is much faster than the stock version, but still not X12 fast. The engine lacks that 3rd gear that the Novas seem to have, and 2 people I know have had problems with the idle stop screw breaking or backing out. The engine gets good fuel consumption, idles for days, and has one of the smoothest powerband of any I have tested. Good motor, but not the fastest.
Look no further than this guys. Uriah sums it up beautifully! I got to see a couple TZ's go and they are good for the money. In saying that, they are not on the same level as Mugen, Novarossi, JP, and RB! On a small track, the difference is not great, but on a longer track with a decent straight, thats where you can see the difference!
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I have been testing this engine for a few weeks now and it is fast. It is not as fast as my modified Mugen X12 by any means, but is a great engine for the money. The modified TZ is much faster than the stock version, but still not X12 fast. The engine lacks that 3rd gear that the Novas seem to have, and 2 people I know have had problems with the idle stop screw breaking or backing out. The engine gets good fuel consumption, idles for days, and has one of the smoothest powerband of any I have tested. Good motor, but not the fastest.
LOL I like your 3rd gear reference. Yeah it seems they do just throw down to another gear and just keep on rocketing away.
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Old 06-28-2005, 10:51 AM   #25
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Whats the fastest motor you guys have seen?
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What motor runs good on a small oval track??? I am using a sirio s15 at the time and it runs ok, but it really doesnt get to open up on a small track.
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It seems that alot of guys say that the os .12 tz is really good on a small track, but it also depends on how much your willing to spend on a new engine.
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I am willing to spend up to 400.00.....
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I am willing to spend up to 400.00.....
Mugen X-12.

It is superior to the NSR12S3 IMHO.

On the straight, where the NSR cant go anymore, the X-12 keeps pulling.

The TRUE Long stroke also helps the engine.

If your geared correctly, its a killer on the straight (150 foot+++)

The NS12 is for smaller tracks. It's a high reving engine and does well on the inner track as well but as I said earlier, it putters out on longer straights (unless geared correctly and shifting correctly).

I would choose the X12 over the NS12 any day. That is why my NS12 has become one of my 2 back up engines. If you want an equivalent to the NS12, take a look at the RB V12 3 port. It retails for about $220.

If you really want a long stroke, and it suits your driving style ... the Novarossi N12LL is an exact twin of the X12.
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