R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Nitro On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-05-2013, 04:00 AM   #31
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 120
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

The question is.. How different could they possibly be though as pricing is virtually the same..

Quote:
Originally Posted by GREGORY! View Post
Do not compare so different engines.. in price.if you can buy the 353-09(not the 08,you do not want that) buy it.do not mesh with mod that is like 50-50 to be a good or bad performer.
Sakura87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 09:30 AM   #32
Tech Regular
 
Yb2fast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Port St Lucie Florida
Posts: 328
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sakura87 View Post
What are your thoughts on the Picco Torque .12 2012 EDO MOD motor?

I have a Picco Torque EDO MOD....I can pass any car, never goes over 220 deg and no pitting, great idle and throttle response....its a beast at 1.8 hp...USE GOOD FUEL.....I use 20 % KOSMIC !!
Yb2fast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 10:26 AM   #33
Tech Regular
 
djiewie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 440
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sakura87 View Post
The question is.. How different could they possibly be though as pricing is virtually the same..
Between these 2 buy the 353-09 if the price are the same??
The 353-09 has more low en mid grunt. And it will rev higher.
It has also a lower cooling head and looks nicer
djiewie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 01:10 PM   #34
Suspended
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,240
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

I have seen many brands blowing up at FBF , and not a Picco yet.... Lots of OS and Novarossi's blowing up, and not as fast as Piccos....
Also, most don't heat up their motors before starting them up. That's a no no with any motor....
bertrandsv87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 02:05 PM   #35
Tech Master
 
TAMAK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,952
Trader Rating: 28 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bertrandsv87 View Post
I have seen many brands blowing up at FBF , and not a Picco yet.... Lots of OS and Novarossi's blowing up, and not as fast as Piccos....
Also, most don't heat up their motors before starting them up. That's a no no with any motor....
I live by the 5P's (Proper Preparation Prevents Poor Performance). Those blown engines you speak of at FBF shouldn't steer anyone away from OS, NOVA, Picco, RB, etc! Buying an engine these days, you should have good confidence buying from any of the brands above (current models). Its just some people do not put the time and effort in the prep stages.

Also, once the engine is properly broken in, there is no need to pre-heat the engine. Unless its below 60* F and then it wont hurt to pre heat.
__________________
TrakPower Speed Equipment / Speed Passion
Serpent Natrix 748 TQ - Nova REX
D413 Reventon 1.1ex 13.5t; AE B6d Laydown Reventon Pro 1.1
DNX408V2-NovaP5, DETC410-Reventon 1.1ex-5.5t MMM
RC10 , RC10GT2- CV-R- SAVOX,
TAMAK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 04:32 PM   #36
Tech Elite
 
blis's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 3,434
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sakura87 View Post
Thank you but I'm looking for advice on a motor that is value for money rather than information suited for a beginner. I have been racing for 15 years. I know the in's & out's of the game. I was just seeking advice on everyone's experience with a decent motor for the money that's all.
If you're racing at Moorebank...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8qZpRp_poY

Then the 353 would be my pick, it wont get you the win though, it's a horsepower track and you will ruin engines attempting to win based on engine performance alone.

We blew the rod out of the crank in a Race spec Capricorn E01.
__________________
RC Cars: E4/G4/TCX/LAB-C02/T4'15/MM Engines
WEB: Beachmums Racing - MYRCM Race Registration
Media: Amain - RCRacingTV - RedRC - LiveRC - blisx264
blis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 04:43 PM   #37
Suspended
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,240
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Properly broken in or not, pre-heating is the way to go ! I have seen too many broken conrods (novarossi) at startup.. Protect your investment at all times...
bertrandsv87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 05:02 PM   #38
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,122
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

Eventually everyone blows a motor, it's just part of the hobby. I race at Floyd and in 2 years of racing saw 2 OS motors blow, both last year and he just pushes his stuff to the limit and it was a .21 not a .12. Also haven't seen too many Piccos especially not .12 size unless its a reds which are picco based. Any motor will be good in the right hands but IMO novarossi has the best name and beat product or all the other top of the line motors wouldn't be Nova based ( max power, RB ) the new OS is definitely a fast motor but expensive. Any Nova is the way to go and the 353 09 is the lowest in price (notice I didn't say cheap). If you're looking for a really low priced motor, Amain has a RB speed I think for 225 with a pipe and header, and it to Murnan or some one who modifies and you got a fast motor
JOE SI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 05:10 PM   #39
Suspended
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,240
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

The way I see it, $400 total for a fast motor that will be pre heated everytime is a safe way to get started in this hobby without breaking the bank... If it blows, it blows... Get another one...
bertrandsv87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 07:40 PM   #40
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 120
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

I'm steering towards the Novarossi 353 '09 but am curious about the Picco as it is certainly bang for buck & can keep up with the competition.

Problem though is quality control. I can't doubt Novarossi as I have been using them for 15 years without any drama but as for Picco though.. I know nothing about them.
Sakura87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 08:08 PM   #41
Suspended
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,240
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Whatever you go with, pickup an engine pre heater... I go a step further and put micro lubricants(bestline) in all my engines(Rc car and real car)... Hopefully my picco will last then..lol...
bertrandsv87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 08:14 PM   #42
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 120
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Thanks for the advice buddy. Cheers!
Sakura87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 08:18 PM   #43
Suspended
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,240
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

I forgot to mention that I prefer running 11% oil nitro fuel versus 9% . I guess even more protection for my picco...
bertrandsv87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2013, 09:39 PM   #44
Tech Master
 
spenzalii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Upper Marlboro, MD
Posts: 1,424
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to spenzalii
Default

I have't run competitively since '09, so I've been out of the loop. But I have seen the '09 353 still on sale. Now, when I was running your ceramic (or even normal) +12 was a better bet than the '08 and lower 353. I remember JP Eagles (353 based) regularly getting beat by that +12. Did Nova get the 353 squared away with the '09 version? I've been looking to get back in to racing on a semi budget and that 353 looks nice, but since my memories of the older 353s weren't great I haven't pulled the trigger
__________________
This episode is brought to you by the letters M, T, X and the number 4....
spenzalii is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2013, 01:44 PM   #45
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,122
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

I know so many guys that will say the 353 09 (the 09 since its the one that's going for the low price) is a low priced competitive motor and very reliable, keeps its tune and gets great runtime. I have 3, 1 in my car,1 in my pit bag just I case of failure and another brand new in the box. After almost 3 gallons I changed the front bearing and rod 1time and its still running strong, and get 5min runtime with fuel to spare. I LOVE IT
JOE SI is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 12:25 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net