Trinity Reflex NT
05-17-2005, 07:32 PM
#31
Tech Adept
Did you read my post?
I expressly said the Evo REAR.
the RR front is the same as the reflex
I expressly said the Evo REAR.
the RR front is the same as the reflex
05-17-2005, 07:38 PM
#32
Tech Regular
Originally posted by rcrossco_1
" version at the rear. "
" version at the rear. "
Yes I see it now. Are my eyes playing tricks on me or was that not in the original post?
05-17-2005, 07:45 PM
#33
Tech Adept
god knows, maybe im losing it too!
Blame the Nitromethane.
Seriously tho, if anyone needs to know ANYTHING about the reflexes, then dont hesitate to ask.
I explored all the options with those cars to the extent of fitting an 0.8M HPI 2 speed too. Which didnt work!
Still got an immaculate Team only for sale if anyones interested.
I still think the best car ever made was the reflex team only. I had one of mine regularly matching serpent 710's
Built like a tank it was, a proper nitro car, unlike these new ones that look like puny electric cars with nitro engines crammed in!!
Blame the Nitromethane.
Seriously tho, if anyone needs to know ANYTHING about the reflexes, then dont hesitate to ask.
I explored all the options with those cars to the extent of fitting an 0.8M HPI 2 speed too. Which didnt work!
Still got an immaculate Team only for sale if anyones interested.
I still think the best car ever made was the reflex team only. I had one of mine regularly matching serpent 710's
Built like a tank it was, a proper nitro car, unlike these new ones that look like puny electric cars with nitro engines crammed in!!
05-18-2005, 06:18 AM
#34
Here is one for you, what are the stock spur and pinion gears on a Reflex....They are not listed in the manual, in the one picture it looks like the 1st gear spur says 49, but I can't be sure and the part numbers listed don't match the ones given at the end of the manual (go figure?)....
The reason I ask, I am having a gear mesh issue with first gear, my 2nd gear spur / pinion mesh fine, first gear has a bit too much space (thus I stripped first gear last weekend)....
Thanks...
The reason I ask, I am having a gear mesh issue with first gear, my 2nd gear spur / pinion mesh fine, first gear has a bit too much space (thus I stripped first gear last weekend)....
Thanks...
05-18-2005, 06:37 AM
#35
Tech Regular
To get proper mesh the total teeth count should be the same. 1st pinion and spur total tooth count should = 2nd pinion and spur. Has anyone changed the gears?
05-18-2005, 06:37 AM
#36
Tech Adept
Stock gears on the NON team only were:-
17 and 21 pinions.
49 and a 45 spur.
This wasnt consistent and some people ended up with different combinations.
All the gears are a constant diameter, but with a slight variation in pitch so all combinations should mesh ok.
You will find that the mesh will differ slightly between the 1st and 2nd gears.
Nothing to worry about.
If it stripped tho, that means its far too loose.
Have a look on the trinity website for the gear ratio charts.
As u can see, ALL combinations of 1st and 2nd gears can be used with each other.
Which means u can have the lowest 1st and the highest 2nd and still run ok.
http://www.teamtrinity.com/cars/gearchart.htm
17 and 21 pinions.
49 and a 45 spur.
This wasnt consistent and some people ended up with different combinations.
All the gears are a constant diameter, but with a slight variation in pitch so all combinations should mesh ok.
You will find that the mesh will differ slightly between the 1st and 2nd gears.
Nothing to worry about.
If it stripped tho, that means its far too loose.
Have a look on the trinity website for the gear ratio charts.
As u can see, ALL combinations of 1st and 2nd gears can be used with each other.
Which means u can have the lowest 1st and the highest 2nd and still run ok.
http://www.teamtrinity.com/cars/gearchart.htm
05-18-2005, 07:07 AM
#37
Ok another question, I can't seem to be able to slide the motor far enough to get my 1st gear to mesh tight enough, should I dremel the chassis a little to give me a bit more room? I have a 17 / 48 1st gear combo, gotta check my second gear....
Thanks for all the help guys...I really like the car just need to get it bullet proof....
Thanks for all the help guys...I really like the car just need to get it bullet proof....
05-18-2005, 07:13 AM
#38
Tech Adept
sounds rather odd.
Are you sure you are not wanting it too tight?
U'd be suprised at how loose the optimum is.
I adjust mine by spinning the spurs and setting it until the friction is at a minimum, and the sound given off by the gear when spinning has this low note to it.
Hard to explain, but it just sounds right.
I wouldnt dremel the chassis as it shouldnt be needed. You should be able to kind of "twist" the engine into the 1st gear to give u a better mesh.
Im suprised u managed to strip a spur gear, the trinity ones are chunky as hell.
Maybe it moved in an impact.
I think maybe u need to tighten the engine down as tight as u can, and dont forget to use threadlock!! but not too much.
Are you sure you are not wanting it too tight?
U'd be suprised at how loose the optimum is.
I adjust mine by spinning the spurs and setting it until the friction is at a minimum, and the sound given off by the gear when spinning has this low note to it.
Hard to explain, but it just sounds right.
I wouldnt dremel the chassis as it shouldnt be needed. You should be able to kind of "twist" the engine into the 1st gear to give u a better mesh.
Im suprised u managed to strip a spur gear, the trinity ones are chunky as hell.
Maybe it moved in an impact.
I think maybe u need to tighten the engine down as tight as u can, and dont forget to use threadlock!! but not too much.
05-18-2005, 07:32 AM
#39
It is ok to cock the engine slightly to get the mesh set, I thought about doing this but didnt think that would be a good thing....If I did this I think I am sure I could get the mesh set right...thanks for the suggestion....This is actually the second 1st gear I have stripped and people have taken note that the mesh was a bit too loose...
05-18-2005, 07:34 AM
#40
Tech Adept
yeah its fine to do it.
Theres no other way really.
Most Nitro cars I have owned have all had to have the engine "twisted" to mesh the gears.
Theres just not enough front to back movement on any of them.
Theres no other way really.
Most Nitro cars I have owned have all had to have the engine "twisted" to mesh the gears.
Theres just not enough front to back movement on any of them.
05-18-2005, 07:36 AM
#41
Thanks again....This is my second attempt at nitro and I am really trying to make this attempt stick so if I can get this set, the motor is nearly perfect and the setup on the car is really close as well....so I greatly appreciate all your help...
You wouldnt happen to have a good starting setup for the car you would want to share, I generally run on a bumpy asphalt parking lot track...but also run on a prepared smooth asphalt track...
You wouldnt happen to have a good starting setup for the car you would want to share, I generally run on a bumpy asphalt parking lot track...but also run on a prepared smooth asphalt track...
05-18-2005, 08:09 AM
#42
Tech Adept
as a matter of fact i do.
Kit oil all round. (40W Kinwald)
Green springs front
Blue springs back
LOTS of rear droop (make the shocks longer)
1-2mm front droop.
40 Shore all round
10,000 WT oil at the back.
25,000 WT at the front.
All castor spacers at the back of the front wishbones.
Camber, toe, etc all about average.
I.e 2Deg camber front and 1.5 rear.
2 Deg toe out front
2 Deg toe in Rear
This is an amazing setup, with massive off power turn in, and pretty good power on steering.
Used this to beat a serpent 710
NOTE this is for the Team only car, which has front and rear roll bars, and is so much faster than the standard Kit.
Roll bars make all the difference from a sluggish car to a super responsive one with the reflex.
Kit oil all round. (40W Kinwald)
Green springs front
Blue springs back
LOTS of rear droop (make the shocks longer)
1-2mm front droop.
40 Shore all round
10,000 WT oil at the back.
25,000 WT at the front.
All castor spacers at the back of the front wishbones.
Camber, toe, etc all about average.
I.e 2Deg camber front and 1.5 rear.
2 Deg toe out front
2 Deg toe in Rear
This is an amazing setup, with massive off power turn in, and pretty good power on steering.
Used this to beat a serpent 710
NOTE this is for the Team only car, which has front and rear roll bars, and is so much faster than the standard Kit.
Roll bars make all the difference from a sluggish car to a super responsive one with the reflex.
05-18-2005, 01:42 PM
#44
Tech Adept
Want to see some reflex porn?!
Its a Team only. Hope U like !!
Its a Team only. Hope U like !!
Last edited by rcrossco_1; 06-07-2005 at 07:37 AM.
05-18-2005, 01:48 PM
#45
Very nice!