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Old 09-15-2005, 10:28 AM   #151
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No thered 5 steve got an 8th scale onroad know he is thinking of selling taht too. Peace
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Old 04-14-2006, 08:04 PM   #152
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Did Sugar Bowl finally close?
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Old 04-14-2006, 08:37 PM   #153
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No. The Sugar Bowl is still running at this time. Off-road on Saturday and On-Road on Sundays.

Development group that has bought the land is still having zoning issues, so AROCC is still renting the facility. AROCC is looking for a new place to build.

Place could close next week or could race all summer. Don't know at this time.
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Old 04-15-2006, 03:30 AM   #154
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One last post on topic...to run nitro sedan to race ONE day is $50 minimum (entry, transponder fee, one set of tires). That is $200 for the month, plus two gallons of fuel (practice) - $50, a glow plug - $7, and odds and ends.
This is one of the things that ever amazed me from you (US boys). Here at Europe, tracks aren't owned by the hobby shops, the clubs are formed by individuals and if you want to use a track, you need to be member of that club for a closed fee (monthly, yearly, etc...), this gives you free and unlimited access to the track (you may want to practice at 4AM with your new Nitro car? ok.. you can, but the neighbors can shoot you too. ) and their facilities.

Along this, in many cases, the the clubs are fairly big (mine local club has more than 350 associates) we organize our own local championship (on the last local club race at 200mm we were more than 50 guys), plus the National championships and higher level competition.

Maybe are the way you have choosen, let to LHS the duties of building the tracks and the LHS aren't the salvation army, so they need to pay the rent, taxes and others (better said, you are paying their rents, taxes and others). Here the LHS doesn't are in charge of that and this could be the key. Just imagine 50 guys creating a club and paying 30US$ each month (just a rough example...), there's 1500US$ each month for building the track.

I resist to think that in Atlanta there aren't 50 guys wanting to have a nice permanent track just to run, practice an bash.... 200US$ for a practice day seems to me a little steep, each day I'll go to practice costs me much less (hardly 40 or 50 Euros) counting tyres, fuel and the proportional part of the mensual fee I pay to the club.
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Old 04-15-2006, 07:36 AM   #155
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This is one of the things that ever amazed me from you (US boys). Here at Europe, tracks aren't owned by the hobby shops, the clubs are formed by individuals and if you want to use a track, you need to be member of that club for a closed fee (monthly, yearly, etc...), this gives you free and unlimited access to the track (you may want to practice at 4AM with your new Nitro car? ok.. you can, but the neighbors can shoot you too. ) and their facilities.

Along this, in many cases, the the clubs are fairly big (mine local club has more than 350 associates) we organize our own local championship (on the last local club race at 200mm we were more than 50 guys), plus the National championships and higher level competition.

Maybe are the way you have choosen, let to LHS the duties of building the tracks and the LHS aren't the salvation army, so they need to pay the rent, taxes and others (better said, you are paying their rents, taxes and others). Here the LHS doesn't are in charge of that and this could be the key. Just imagine 50 guys creating a club and paying 30US$ each month (just a rough example...), there's 1500US$ each month for building the track.

I resist to think that in Atlanta there aren't 50 guys wanting to have a nice permanent track just to run, practice an bash.... 200US$ for a practice day seems to me a little steep, each day I'll go to practice costs me much less (hardly 40 or 50 Euros) counting tyres, fuel and the proportional part of the mensual fee I pay to the club.
Hey no groans from me sounds like an excellent idea for a monthly fee.
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This is one of the things that ever amazed me from you (US boys). Here at Europe, tracks aren't owned by the hobby shops, the clubs are formed by individuals and if you want to use a track, you need to be member of that club for a closed fee (monthly, yearly, etc...), this gives you free and unlimited access to the track (you may want to practice at 4AM with your new Nitro car? ok.. you can, but the neighbors can shoot you too. ) and their facilities.

Along this, in many cases, the the clubs are fairly big (mine local club has more than 350 associates) we organize our own local championship (on the last local club race at 200mm we were more than 50 guys), plus the National championships and higher level competition.

Maybe are the way you have choosen, let to LHS the duties of building the tracks and the LHS aren't the salvation army, so they need to pay the rent, taxes and others (better said, you are paying their rents, taxes and others). Here the LHS doesn't are in charge of that and this could be the key. Just imagine 50 guys creating a club and paying 30US$ each month (just a rough example...), there's 1500US$ each month for building the track.

I resist to think that in Atlanta there aren't 50 guys wanting to have a nice permanent track just to run, practice an bash.... 200US$ for a practice day seems to me a little steep, each day I'll go to practice costs me much less (hardly 40 or 50 Euros) counting tyres, fuel and the proportional part of the mensual fee I pay to the club.
that isn't completely true. there are a fair number of club tracks here in the states. my home track is a club(tsrcar) and i am thankful for it since locally we have found out the hard way how hobbyshop tracks come and go but the club track is doing great and should be here for a long time.I totally agree that a club is the way to go but you have to find the right leaders who will invest the time into getting it done right. without those people it won't work imo.
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There is a high percentage of club operated tracks for on-road, here in the states. More store owned tracks for off-road. Not much difference in cost of racing between a store owned track v.s. club operation.
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Old 04-18-2006, 12:26 PM   #158
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I've lived close to Atlanta for more than 9 years and all the clubs in a radius of 250 miles are commercial.

It's the American consume and forget mentality that prohibits more club tracks, since they demand more involvement than just come and race....
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One problem with clubs (at least the several that I have belonged to) is that 20% of the people do 80% of the work.

With the astronomy club I used to belong to there were 8 or 9 members (out of 50-55 total annual membership) who hosted the bi-weekly starwatches and worked on the annual starparty. We often had trouble having a quorum (8) for our meetings. I worked every event for 5 years, sometimes alone, before I became burned out.

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We have in the works right now to build A.R.O.C.C a club track.It will be ran by the club in a county park. Working on it
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Are we any closer to having a track to race at in the Atlanta area?
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Old 05-30-2006, 07:28 AM   #162
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We have in the works right now to build A.R.O.C.C a club track.It will be ran by the club in a county park. Working on it
Do you have an idea where it will be located? Will the track be of the same quality as the Sugar Hill track? That is the nicest asphalt I have seen.
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We will be starting an "AROCC CLUB CHAMPINSHIP SERIES" in June. There will
be 6 qualifying races. The first race will be next weekend. The other 5
races will occur every other weekend. The dates will be as follows:
- June 4th.
- June 18th.
- July 2nd.
- July 16th.
- July 30th.
- Final: August 13th!

We will count, for each driver, only 4 races out of the six (two throw
away). Also the first race of June 4th AND the final race of August 13th
will count DOUBLE.

The point count will be explained by Bob Malphurs on Sunday.

Make sure you all come this weekend and get ready for this Championship
series!

Looking forward to seeing all of you!
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Old 05-30-2006, 06:29 PM   #164
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I'm sure it all depends where you go but yes only the serious hardcore are racing if you added all the fee's, traveling,parts etc it is very expensive it's a very serious hobby imo. Some people have said its a dead hobby but it really isn't so many people go out and find parking lots or have the own property of some sort and just go bashing
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yeah, but that's only fun for so long. It's not like really racing on a perfectly prepared track.
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